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Ten (OK, twelve) things well-nigh breaking your collarbone | Lifestyle, Mutterings | Muddymoles: Mountain wanderlust (MTB) in the Surrey Hills and Mole Valley Menu Muddymoles Muddymoles: Mountain wanderlust (MTB) in the Surrey Hills and Mole Valley Cycling News, Reviews,Yackand Ride reports Important! The functionality on this website requires Javascript but it appears that either your browser does not support Javascript or you have Javascript disabled. This will stupefy your wits of this website and in some cases may prevent key features from working correctly. Ten (OK, twelve) things well-nigh breaking your collarbone Posted by Matt, December 19, 2008 There are 126 comments so far Up until this year I’ve been lucky unbearable never to have wrenched a single unorthodoxy in my body. I probably haven’t been trying nonflexible unbearable which suits me fine, if you’re injured you can’t ride for a start. But this year, as most of you know I collided heavily with a tree and the tree won quite easily, leaving me with a wrenched collarbone. What can you expect if you’re unlucky unbearable to wits the same? Here’s a list of the main points. Breaking a unorthodoxy hurts, a lot. In my limited experience, not as bad as suffering for an unshortened weekend with a raging tooth abcess but close. The thing is, although it’s the sort of pain that makes you want to be very good and sit still if it would just stop hurting, when you do sit still it does stop hurting. Until you move of course. But for me, tooth pain is worse considering it won’t stop, ever. Like tooth pain, when it stops hurting it’s difficult to remember how bad it was, which is probably a good thing. Until you move. The first week or so is the worst if you are pursuit the traditional ‘strap it up and wait for nature to mend it’ course. The unorthodoxy starts making new stuff pretty quickly but without a couple of days the sensation of the two ends sticking and then pulling untied as you move still makes me finger nauseous if I think well-nigh it. There is a wide range of estimates of how long it takes to heal. I’ve heard of people stuff when at work the next day (frankly that’s in the unsure insane category) to up to eight or ten weeks. For me, I had five and a half weeks in a sling followed by flipside couple of weeks to get mobility when unbearable to momentum a car. And it was a simple (but clean) break. My translating is listen to your soul first, then doctors. There are no shortcuts. Painkillers are a boon and a curse. Put it this way, codeine based painkillers are known for constructive pain relief, followed by ummm, constipation. Calculate your spoonful based on need. Most medical translating is offered on a ‘don’t do anything unless necessary (or we’re getting paid for it)’ basis. This gives rise to consultants suggesting pinning the unorthodoxy whereas NHS doctors say ‘it’ll be fine, just wait’. If you think pinning is worthwhile, insist early on or it’s not worth it as the unorthodoxy is healing straight away. For me, pinning would have saved time but not necessarily been the weightier option as it was a simple unravel and was unchangingly going to heal on its own. Pinning involves wearing muscles and invasive surgery, the wait and see tideway is longer but does work. I’ve been lucky unbearable to get a full range of movement when albeit with the odd shoulder click. The medical system is obscure. Not considering people don’t want to help (all the medical staff I met were great), but considering they see this stuff so often they forget it’s a massive deal for you. My most upsetting moments were from stuff treated as a statistic or a ‘problem’ rather than a patient. Going private prevents this but plane so, make a point of asking questions and pushing for answers. If you unravel your collarbone and have it strapped for any period of time (the most worldwide treatment), expect theSiteof Doom. It will happen. A combination of hot material from the sling itself, an immobile shoulder and a difficulty in washing can only lead to one result. It’s unpleasant, expressly in upper summer and has lead me to tinker at the thought of where all that sufferer skin normally goes. That’s unbearable for me to say but do your weightier to stay clean. The value of a good physiotherapist cannot be over estimated. I’ve been to a few over the years but the one that worked on me without I was out of the sling was the weightier I’ve had.Withoutthat length of time immobile you lose strength dramatically but moreover flexibility to the point where my elbow wouldn’t straighten and I couldn’t get my arm whilom my throne or overdue my back. The physio sorted all that and now I’m fine. And site massages (cf. theSiteof Doom) are odd, painful and embarrassing in equal measure. Fitness. If you are injured, you will lose fitness. There’s nothing you can do well-nigh this but don’t be tempted to ‘get when on the horse’ too soon. It may be tempting but the consequences of flipside injury are both increasingly time off the velocipede and potentially far worse forfeiture to deal with long term. Wait until the physio says it’s OK to start training and do exactly what they say. When you do get when to riding, the first ride or so will be fine, without which the extended layoff will really sap your strength. Remember you’re still healing from a big injury. For me, I’ve ended up with a couple of colds and unstipulated tiredness for quite a while now and pushing harder doesn’t help. As I’ve said, listen to your soul and play the long game. Be prepared for depression. Not necessarily the ‘whole world’s versus me’ kind (although it might be) but longer term flatness and lack of enthusiasm. For me, not riding the whole summer, missing out on outdoor air and sunshine plus unstipulated tiredness and the knowledge that your mates are still riding has taken it’s toll, leaving me ill, unfit and fed up. Again, play the long game, vibration it requires keeping a well-spoken idea in your throne of where you want to be and not stuff distracted by relatively small hurdles that get in the way. Don’t indulge yourself to do stuff you don’t want but don’t let other easy excuses get in your way. Things like poor weather, wife has got used to you stuff virtually on Sundays, bike’s not quite right excuses don’t wash. Just do it. MTB Mojo—this is the hardest part of your recovery. Personally I’m not there yet. There are times when you start riding then that you find yourself just plain scared of hurting yourself again. Once you know what it involves you don’t want to wits it again. Besides, the definition of an idiot is someone who doesn’t learn from past mistakes. This is a tough one, you can’t just pick up where you left off but of undertow you know deep lanugo that you can do it considering you’ve washed-up it before. For me, returning to riding in the storing when everything is/was covered in slippery leaves and mud made it worse and there have been times when I’ve just wanted take up Tiddlywinks instead. You can’t gravity things and in my specimen I can’t shake the thought that my injury was stupendously tropical to a full on high–speed head–first disaster, in which specimen I might not be worrying well-nigh riding then at all. I’ve been really lucky and in those circumstances it’s weightier not to tweak the nose of danger then too soon. I know it will return but I’ll let it come to me rather than going looking for it. So there’s my thoughts. Basically, the injury hurts and the sensation of muscles shortening, withering and cramping up through inactivity can be extremely uncomfortable, but your soul will heal. You can have it pinned or wait for nature and there’s pros and cons with either option which depending on the opinion and employer of who you’re talking to you won’t get. But basically people do want to help, so alimony pushing for answers. Watch out for theSiteof Doom and winnow that it takes time to recover from a big break. I never realised how much thoroughbred there is in wreck for example which leads to bruising and swelling which can take weeks to dissipate. Finally, let mountain wanderlust come to you once you’ve recovered, don’t try and prove a point to yourself (or worse, others) but don’t use feeble excuses to stay yonder either. For me, without six months, I think I’m starting to enjoy it again… Filed under Lifestyle, Mutterings in December 2008Well-nighthe tragedian Matt is one of the founding Molefathers of the Muddymoles, and is the designer and main zookeeper of the website. Having ridden a 2007 Orange Five for many years he's recently switched to a YT Industries Jeffsy, slantingly a 2016 Marin Pine Mountain. Lurking in the when of the stable, waiting for it's next installment is a Kona Big Unit 29er hardtail, while an early On-One Inbred still whispers sweet things to him. You can plane find him on road bikes - a Specialized Secteur and a Trek District 1 so far. If you've overly wondered how we got into mountain wanderlust and how the MuddyMoles started, well wonder no more. There are 126 comments on ‘Ten (OK, twelve) things well-nigh breaking your collarbone’ We love to get comments from our readers - if you've spent a few moments to comment, thank-you. If you haven't had a endangerment yet, jump to our comments form if you have something to say. mike61 says: Matt, totally agree. I was out for a while with mtb induced wrenched ribs March–May of this year and both myself and buddies don’t think my fitness is yet when to normal. Point 12 is very true.Convictionreturns but it is a frustrating wait. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on December 29, 2008 at 5:30 pm Matt says: Cheers Mike, it’s frustrating losing fitness you’ve worked nonflexible to gain. Although you think you’ve still got it, it’s only without a couple of weeks you realise how far you have to go.Convictionis a long way overdue but I was glad at how I rode BKB on Sunday’s year end ride so I hope I’m heading in the right direction. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on January 1, 2009 at 10:29 pm zeeyaa says: All what Matt has said is what I’m going through now. I tapped my collarbone 3 weeks ago in car accident… its definetly not fun for the first 2 weeks… Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on February 6, 2009 at 6:43 am Jamie says: When I wracked my arm I did a lot of time on the turbo. It’s difficult to get any exercise when you are wracked up like that but plane though a stationary velocipede is wearisome the exercise makes you finger better. My unravel looked like yours on the xray but it didn’t hurt as much and I was healed up in text typesetting time, 6 weeks to momentum a car, 12 weeks to ride a velocipede again. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on February 11, 2009 at 3:09 pm DaveH says:Unconfinedand very thorough blog post – and thanks for the scuttlebutt on mine well-nigh my wrenched collarbone too in similar circumstances. Ironically the surgeon I first spoke to – a day without I tapped mine – when I was still in a bit of a state and a good deal of pain – talked well-nigh how they might pin it. That made me optimistic – considering having seen the x-ray I thought that there was no way it would heal itself in a decent way. I still think they made a bad undeniability – mine’s a mess and although I can ride a velocipede I still finger like my movement’s wordless unbearable to never swim properly and lifting things whilom my throne will be a long nonflexible road. Pinning does have its own implications but I think that the current health system relies too much on surgeon / consultant motivation. What possible motivation could there be for a consultant to want to cut into me? As you point out, it represents problems of its own. I still can’t help but finger that I’d have been pinned if I’d somehow explained how important exercise is to me (to the overweight consultant!). Good to hear your tale of recovery though… hope our cycling paths navigate one day. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on June 23, 2009 at 9:23 pm Stuart says: It’snot well-spoken from your scuttlebutt whether you were pinned or not? Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on June 30, 2017 at 2:27 pm matty clark says: Hi thanks for taking the time to explain your ordeal i myself have wrenched the end of my collar unorthodoxy when in affan on penheed final section well-nigh 4 weeks ago went to hospital in wales and they said it wasn’t bren so crush to work for a week and went to see a consultant in portsmouth who re-xrayed it and said it was broken. Iam trying to icon out when i can momentum legally as its still 4 weeks till i see the consoltant. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on November 8, 2009 at 2:34 pm Andy C says: The issue of driving with a serious injury is increasingly of an insurance problem. You will need to contact your insurance company, explain where you are in the treatment and what you can do, and get some confirmation in writing if they say you are ok to drive. I’ve just fractured my metacarpal (see “Andy’s hurt his hand”) and am in a plastic semi tint which prevents me gripping a wheel at the moment. As soon as this is removed I will be on to the insurance company, but it’s lanugo to them if they say you are covered or not, and sadly I have yet to find any insurance visitor that likes to take a risk without a huge premium. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on November 10, 2009 at 2:53 pm Angela says: hi matt!! i realise this is a little old but i am so grateful to have found this blog! 🙂 i have moreover fractured my right collarbone from driving into a tree.. it sounds funny but its not really in real life haha im just wondering when was there signs of healing shown on your xrays? with me its been 4 weeks and theres no patchment of the wreck yet. my xray looks alot like yours. now the specialist ( 2 variegated ones) are suggesting that i get the surgery. my unstipulated doctor says to wait. if you could tell me when yours started to heal in the xray it will help me heapssss thankyou and i stipulate with all the above. lol thankfully it is winter here. theres no smelly armpits haha! Angela Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on August 6, 2012 at 4:15 pm paul901 says: Angela, each unravel seems to be variegated and the system is notorious for ambiguity. I think part of it is the uncertain nature of clavicle breaks and that 90% will heal without surgery but it takes several weeks to know. The medical world prefer not to elect for surgery straight yonder and monitor you instead unless it’s a bad unravel which they don’t believe will heal. In total it takes the soul well-nigh 21 weeks apparently. In the specimen of my partner hers did not heal, our consultancy translating gave us too little information and without a month she was in the same value of pain and had neck soreness presumed to be from trapped nerves. She was not getting the kind of natural recovery and trapezium support that some others are lucky unbearable to get. So we paid £200 for a private consultancy and could have paid £5000 for private surgery but were not happy to do so. 2cm of movement seemed to be the magic number and at the time of the wrecking it was less but by well-nigh 2 months it was 1.9cm. So her instincts were right the X-rays said so (we took screen prints on our camera phone each time) and at the point the hospital said it was borderline. She was willful to the hospital team that she was in pain, that as a Mother she needed to be worldly-wise to pick up her child, as a painter she needed full arm movement whilom the throne and in unstipulated wanted full arm rotation swimming freestyle etc. She got upset in front of them and at that point they sought permission from the superabound and then well-set to operate, thankfully it happened within the next month. She described the operation as a relief as the neck pain disappeared, the shoulder was supported, the shortening corrected and movement began to return properly. Yes, she had a scar she didn’t like, the clavicle line bulged a bit with the plate under the skin and she moreover had an zone of skin surface with no feeling but she was glad she had taken the surgery. The plate unfurled to scarecrow her and without flipside 3 months she had it removed and that was increasingly relief. So, just flipside perspective as there doesn’t seem to be a universal answer. If you’re not happy with progress don’t let it go, persevere with what you think is right for you and hang in there through the misery of it if yours is a bad break! Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on August 7, 2012 at 7:20 am Angela says: hi Paul thank you for your input.. im wondering how she felt without the surgery?? was she in pain, could she sleep properly in bed? the thing with me is.. the pain seems to be subsiding but its not joined yet 🙁 its been 4.5 weeks almost.. i am just scared to go surgery… but hearing well-nigh your partner and how relieved she was i guess its not as frightening as i thought it would be. weightier wishes and thankyou then ! Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on August 8, 2012 at 3:27 am paul901 says: Hi Angela, my good lady says that whilst she naturally felt nervous well-nigh surgery and knew she would have post-op pain for a few days these were less important than getting it sorted. Her father had serious cycling accidents in their native Colombia and said to her to get it washed-up right from the start.Oftenmisogynist information said don’t let it heal badly, you don’t want the tissue fusion if it’s not aligning properly. If I recall correctly, Amanda said surgery was the weightier thing for her too when she tapped hers. Good luck with it, maybe Amanda will see this and post too. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on August 9, 2012 at 5:25 pm Angela says: hi Paul thank u so much then and to your lovely partner 🙂 i have made an visit for surgery next week… daunting but somewhat heady as i know it will heal properly hehe thanks moreover Amanda!! weightier wishes Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on August 10, 2012 at 4:22 am David sergeant says: Hi everyone, I have read all your comments fascinated by how well-judged they are. I am currently in week two post braking my RH clavicle as a result of riding recklessly lanugo hill in the recent British snow. In my defence it was difficult in the unappetizing light to see the ramp the kids had made which sent me over the handle bars. Having wrenched my clavicle surpassing (childish motorcycle wrecking quite some time ago) I never get up from a tumble without the thought of a possible break! This one was particularly nonflexible and fast so at first I was pleased only to have one brake!Consideringof the previous restriction my collarbone tapped in the 1st 1/3 medial, which ways it tapped at the sternum end. This I have found out is quite rare and leaves the medical proffessionals with a dilemma of how weightier to traet. My fist consultant with the fracture clinic without A&E just looked at the X-ray and diagnose natural healing plane though through the pain of self viewing I had expressed my watchtower as to how upper the sturnum join seems to be and the pressure it was applying to my neck/ wind pipe. I had no pain to vapor in fact from my previous restriction I was relatively pain self-ruling except from that nauseating feeling of unorthodoxy on unorthodoxy movement. Everyone I have spoken too has said expect a lump, I’ve had a lump for the passed 20 years from the last restriction but I’m not happy well-nigh its direction and its likley hood of restricting movement in the future! I ride MTB/road and motorcycle, I moreover swim and run and was looking fwd to a year of triathlons. All of which I will need full range of movement in shoulder and the neck. Well that’s me, but my question is this, with only just over a weeks healing (going well) should I insist on seeing the consultant then early to talk well-nigh possible long term effects of just leaving it to heal naturally? Should I push for surgery if its plane possible now I’ve started to heal? I’m not wrung of surgery if the outcome is that I can resume my sports. Dave Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on January 30, 2013 at 8:34 am Matt says: Wow, that’s a tough call! First off, bad luck breaking your collarbone, we’ve all been messing well-nigh in the snow recently and had our share of tumbles, fortunately without incident. If you have competitive plans it really is expressly frustrating. I’m no medical expert but I’d say if you have concerns you really need to pursue them with your medical contacts, either through private health or the NHS. The problem is unchangingly to wastefulness the risk of intervention versus the risk of doing nothing. It’s very nonflexible for anyone, plane professionals, to come to a firm visualization over this – there’s so many variables – but as many variegated opinions as possible would help. I was lucky, in the end I have a full range of movement back, albeit with clicks in unrepealable directions, without permitting it to heal naturally. Other friends have not been as lucky, requiring remoter surgery from injuries much closer to the shoulder joint. Good luck David, hope it works out OK and sorry I can’t help increasingly really. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on January 30, 2013 at 9:33 am Dandy says: Bad luck, Dave. I would reverberate Matt’s comment. Medics often dismiss the need for full movement of joints by the unstipulated public, not expecting them to want to take part in the types of activities that readers of this forum often enjoy! I guess like many of us that you’re not the youngest guy on the block, which then colours the medics’ judgement further. Go and seek a second opinion immediately, and explain (if you haven’t already) that you need guaranteed full movement for the triathlons you regularly enjoy. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on January 30, 2013 at 2:39 pm Jim Sutherland says:UpperDavid Wondering what the long term outcome has been. I am 4 weeks into a medial clavicular fracture which was thought at first to be a dislocation as the end is now so upper I can finger it swallowing. It’s now pain self-ruling there but I have villainous pain whilom and overdue my shoulder blade. So what do you think I have to come in terms of pain in my shoulder and swallowing sensation? Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on March 20, 2017 at 9:01 am Karen says:Tappedmy collarbone 8/23/14 surgery 8/29/14. Dr did not push for surgery. Pain was unbearable. Demoral was nectar from the gods but do yourself a favor, take miralax every day. Not a biker but am fitness instructor. It is like losing my right arm this thought that I should be teaching my classes but can’t momentum till 10/10/14. Bobo!!! Did stipulate on suegery, turns out wreck were shattered so I am plated and screwed, and not in the good way. Patience and 3 winsome grandchildren are getting me through but it ain’t cute. Thanks for the stories from other clavicle catastrophes. Will be diligent with therapy getting W Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on September 12, 2014 at 3:28 am Matt says: Hi Karen, sorry to hear well-nigh your break, it’s no fun stuff injured when you’re perfectly healthy but at least wreck heal. It does get largest but I remember the three week stage stuff quite frustrating as untied from stuff incapacitated you want to just get when to normal. Good luck with your recovery! Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on September 16, 2014 at 10:14 am Michele says: Hi Matt and everyone else, Like other have said, I’m really, really happy to have found this page! I came off my velocipede 8 weeks ago onto a nasty nonflexible London road, and woke up in hospital hours later with a wrenched right clavicle and throne fractures. I think I was really lucky to wake up at all actually, given the London traffic! Anyway, my clavicle fracture has a 1.6cm overlap, and it looks pretty much like yours in the picture Matt; unquestionably it has looked the same for the last 8 weeks, and at my follow-up meeting with an orthopaedic consultant without yet flipside x-ray yesterday, he said that by now it should be showing signs of callus growth and healing and as it isn’t he asked me if I wanted to go lanugo the route of surgery with plate and screws straight away. That’s really why I’ve ended up here, considering having well-set to have it washed-up considering it was offered, and considering a couple of people I know have said it’d be a good idea, I really don’t know if it’s the right thing to do at this stage. My shoulder and arm have been the main problem, and the clavicle unravel doesn’t seem to hurt much at all when pushed, or plane when vibrated with a tuning fork!. The all-round pain in the zone has got largest week by week, but obviously at this stage I still can’t put my right arm wideness me, or overdue me, or anywhere very upper whilom me, and I’d like to know if I’ll be worldly-wise to in the future? I did have lots of tension in my neck and where the spine goes into the skull – perhaps I have wilt increasingly used to that now, or perhaps it’s easing with some help from a cranial osteopath who was recommended to me, and who was brilliant. I have a fairly zippy job involving follow-spotting with fairly large lamps, which ways I do need to reach wideness myself with my right arm quite a lot to retread things on the lamp whilst operating it; and I do usually trundling everywhere, though it may be a while yet surpassing I do again. My question is, will surgery leave me worse off in the end or largest off? And crucially, how soon without the surgery will I be worldly-wise to do the job I’ve described, as I’ve had to turn lanugo work over the last couple of months and I’ve been offered good work that’ll start 2½ weeks without the op. The consultant said I can do pretty much anything a couple of days without the op (including going yonder on holiday on a plane!), but I’m really not convinced well-nigh that, and I certainly won’t be trying any Ryanair flights any time soon. Also, how do the scars and the inserted stainless steel plates and screw turn out? I’m just pretty yellow-eyed often well-nigh it now, and really would fathom any advice. If you’re still reading Angela, I hope you’re doing well now without 2 years lanugo the line, and thanks for your comments when to her paul901, I found them really interesting. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on September 19, 2014 at 7:07 pm gablody says: Anyone out there??? Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on October 1, 2014 at 7:51 am Heather says: I had a major surgery on my shoulder, i was in a immobility for 6 months. I still have not got full range when and its been two years. Right without i got over the MTB i got on my ATV and had a bad wrecking with my dad, he got wrenched ribs, and I had hurt my shoulder once increasingly and tapped my wrist and got a concussion. He was driving but he still won’t indulge me near an ATV. It is horrible not worldly-wise to do something you love. I’ve got my fitness when but not the one thing I love. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on November 2, 2014 at 5:37 pm Ramesh says: Hi guys Can u believe a surgeon breaking his collar bone? Here I am. I am a child surgeon (not ortho).Stuffa doctor unquestionably does nt help to decide better. Half my friends are ortho. Its interesting half say surgery. Half say wait. Mine is exactly like yours. Rt middle 1.8 cm displaced. As you say each specimen is variegated I suppose. There is no right and wrong or the weightier way to deal with it. I am 12 days post injury. Decided wait and watch tideway over surgery. No pain at unravel but muscles cramps and soreness are really bothering. Moving position in bed or sofa is what makes the fragment move. I dont know how to tenancy that.MoreoverI am getting worried whether I will need operation without 4 wks of wait. Should I hv opted for early surgery to regain shoulder movements quickly? I will know only without 4 weeks. Doctors unquestionably dont elaborate on what you will go thru. Your blog was really helpful. I hope I know when will it heal when can I momentum and when can I get when to work. But its nonflexible to be inactive and frustration/ peepers is nonflexible to tide over. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on November 21, 2014 at 4:49 am Dandy says: Hang on in there, Ramesh; and maybe get on an exercise velocipede as soon as the pain allows. This really reminds you how wearisome and tedious these machines are, and you’ll fathom getting when onto a real velocipede plane increasingly 😉 Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on November 24, 2014 at 11:06 am Ramesh says: Hi 4 weeks over since I tapped my rt collar unorthodoxy and went lanugo the inobtrusive treatment.Largestin several ways.Worldly-wiseto get up easier. Can sleep flat. Of sling.Unorthodoxyends sticky now not moving. Not paining when car goes over mumps. No need to splint and hold shoulder with opposite hand to do things.Worldly-wiseto eat with a spoon in right hand. Started going to work unorganized days. However…Word-stocksit for increasingly than 2 hours as all muscles start aching. Have to take a break, lay unappetizing for 15 mt, then I can sit for flipside 2 hrs. I dont know why. May be the soft union between unorthodoxy ends put to stress? And muscles balk up to protect it? Xray wise no big change. They say it may take 12 wks to see proper bony union. But nowthat ends are sticky and soft union is there gentle shoulder physio has been started. In fact from third week isometric shoulder exercises and passive roations have been started. This has helped a lot in getting shoulder muscles when to work. Still elevation of arm whilom shoulder and weight validness banned. I finger plate and screw fixation would have made my recovery faster and less painful. By now I would hv been worldly-wise to sit for 6-8 hours? I suppose it may take flipside two months for that to happen with the current non operative management. Its scary when I read well-nigh shortening of collar unorthodoxy interchange shoulder mechanics. Plus there are concerns of malunion glut lump leading to compresssion of nerves all what not. I would recommend early fixation with plate and screw on day 1 if possible if you want swift recovery in 3-4 weeks for future netizens who end up breaking a collar bone. I will let you know how I have washed-up without may be 4 increasingly weeks. Ramesh Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on December 9, 2014 at 9:43 am Ramesh says: Sorry for typos. Read ‘Off sling’Unorthodoxyends sticky now not moving. Not paining when car goes over ‘bumps’. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on December 9, 2014 at 9:48 am Ramesh says: Let me protract the story. I tapped my right collarbone and 6 weeks lanugo inobtrusive treatment I was not worldly-wise to sit for increasingly than 3 hrs in a stretch due to nagging pain. Although I got full arm movements I could do all activities only for up to 3 hrs. So took a repeat x ray and moreover insisted on a CT scan. This time it was easier for the orthopod to make a decision. There was no callus insemination and it was diagnosed as stringy nonunion. It ways ends of wrenched collarbone have sealed off and a rubbor like stringy tissue was holding it together. As it was not bony union I could not go on for increasingly than 3 hrs. So it was decided to operate. The surgery took 3 hrs (simple plate and screw on first week would have been 1 hr surgery). The orthopod had to excise all stringy tissue. There was some muscle interposition preventing union. The doctor had to remove all unwanted tissues, freshen the edges of the sealed off collarbone ends, uncurl them and put plate and screws. In wing a small unorthodoxy graft was taken from arm to stimilate unorthodoxy growth. Thats why it took 3 hrs. Now I am one week post surgery. I could lay unappetizing on bed. I could sit for increasingly than 4 hrs without dragging pain. I could eat and skim using right hand in one week (this was possible only 5 weeks without inobtrusive treatment). I am sure in flipside week or two I will start exercises to regain muscle strength. So guys who are going to unravel collarbone dont worry well-nigh plate and screws. It takes a week to start arm movements and 2-4 to proceeds strength/ get when to work. Of undertow children are exception. They get largest same time without surgery. But if you are whilom 25 yrs and going for non operative treatment, it still might unite (malunion is not an issue with collarbone) but it might well take 8 weeks and think whether you can take that much time off. Thinking when had I known this long I would have insisted on surgery first week itself. Ramesh. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on December 28, 2014 at 3:02 am SandraSexualityDwyer says: Thank you for your posts, hope all is well now 2 years later. I am 4 weeks into rt clavicle unravel – 2 cm overlap with wreck too far untied to join and with no firm translating which way to go. The consultants say it will heal and be usable in well-nigh flipside 8 weeks or have op with all the risks and maybe discomfort from the plate as my skin is thin at that point, without reading your posts I am considering op. I’m glad I found this post everyone seems to have similar experience, its the first time in my scrutinizingly 60 yrs i have wrenched a unorthodoxy and its good to read of others experiences. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on November 1, 2016 at 7:06 pm Lizzie says: Hi, This has been a unconfined find as I lie here unable to sleep considering of the pain in my left shoulder. I too have a wrenched clavicle. I came off my road velocipede on the 23rd November 2014. I was going pretty fast. I’m not sure what happened but my shoulder and helmet came off worst. My xray looks pretty much like Matts but I’ve moreover got a floaty bit. On the day of the accident, the A&E doctor said they wouldn’t operate and would leave it to heal on its own. Luckily I’m right handed so untied from lattermost pain, not managing to sleep much, stuff constipated and overall grumpy, I could scoop my supplies and use the remote. I visited the orthopaedic doctor two weeks without my fall. I explained to him I worked in the public sector so was crucial I was worldly-wise to regain full strength. He sent me yonder with some exercises and a new sling (just collar and cuff) and told me to come when in 4 weeks and he would see whether I needed surgery. Firstly, the new collar and mitten thingy was abandoned. I was in too much pain on the upper arm and shoulder as it gave no support whatsoever.Scrutinizinglysix weeks in, I’ve not taken a painkiller for a week and I haven’t worn my sling for over a week yet I still have pain. My sticky out collarbone hurts at times and it’s like there’s something jaggy in there. I think it’s the floaty bit bone. When I lie unappetizing on the floor i finger a sharp pain on my left shoulder stipule too. Having this injury sucks!! On the plus side, I’ve managed three upright short spins on the turbo. It’s not the same as stuff out there on the road or trails but at this moment, it’s the next weightier thing. I contemplated swimming, but everything I’ve read says no. I haven’t embraced driving yet so that’s my next goal. My range of movement is largest but I can’t move my arm whilom or over my head. Oh the joys. Anyhoo, here’s hoping the doctor will xray me next week and shed some light on what the next plan of whoopee is. Sorry if I’ve havered on folks but I’ve been awake for hours. It’s kept me occupied 🙂 Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on January 3, 2015 at 5:38 am Lizzie says: Ps I’m tired but awake. Just to expand, I work in the emergency services so need full strength asap. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on January 3, 2015 at 6:58 am Bob says: Thank you for this post, I am whence week #3 and the insight is beneficial. Haven’t met with the Physical Therapist yet. The web is providing me with much largest information than the Orthopedic clinic. They seem uninfluenced and are sluggish and unresponsive. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on April 5, 2015 at 11:40 am Beth says: I hate this! I too am sat up in middle of the night unable to sleep considering of pain, despite the fact I’ve taken tramodol! I only have a one-liner up by the shoulder end of clavicle. They said it was a wipe one-liner and should heal quickly. It didn’t seem that bad, but had road rash that seemed increasingly painful, but now that’s cleared up all I can finger is the shoulder. (I ran too fast lanugo a hill in race and veritably stacked it) Did anyone else get really weird pins and needles or goose tumor sensations in their arm, hand and upper back? It seems to be getting worse and it’s been 16 days post accident. I have been keeping on top of pain relief and wearing my sling religiously but taking arm out and straightening every hour or so to alimony the muscles moving. I took 6 days off work and then went in 4 days part time and now went when full time. It’s defiitely feels worse since, achier from leaning into the sling increasingly I think and when pain from over compensating. How long in stereotype did you guys take off work? I’m getting married in 8 weeks then disembarking on a 7 month venture travelling in 12 weeks – I really want it to heal and trying to do everything I can to help it! Any translating appreciated? Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on June 8, 2015 at 10:04 pm Matt says: Hi Beth, sorry for the slow response and thanks for sharing your collarbone experiences. I was quite a long time off work as I couldn’t momentum and had no public transport (plus stuff a web developer meant I couldn’t move the mouse or hands type so I wasn’t going to be productive anyway). The weightier translating for healing is time – every injury is unique and needs it’s own time to heal properly so don’t do too much too soon. For me, years without the incident, I will say I’ve made a good recovery. I didn’t really believe that until I went over the bars a year later with no wrongheaded effects! These days, I do occasionally wake up with pain in the shoulder joint but it’s not a significant legacy. I hope you make/made a good recovery and congratulations on your wedding! Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on October 27, 2015 at 3:26 pm Bill Cooper says: I’m 62, fractured my Right clavicle 3 weeks ago, have been doing physio since day2, and managed to chuck the sling yonder without 8 days, my translating do all the physio you can lay your arm on! first day when at work today – taking every opportunity to exercise it, ouch that itchy site of doom! – a damn good article, weightier tip – alimony those fingers, the wrist and elbow moving as soon as possible as often as possible. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on October 19, 2015 at 12:01 pm Matt says: Hi Bill, thanks for your comments. Sounds like you’ve had a very positive recovery if you were worldly-wise to get rid of the sling so quickly. Completely stipulate well-nigh keeping things moving, it’s surprising how quickly things wither and that then forms part of the recovery as well so if you can stave it, all the better. Sorry for the slow response as well. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on October 27, 2015 at 3:29 pm pauline says: tapped my let collarbone 1st nov 2015 xrays show still not joining am getting some mobility when but the pain from shoulder lanugo to elbow mainly in the bicep muscle unbearable without walking for well-nigh 15 mins not started physio yet tried swimming but hurts to much Dr not recomending surgery just wishthe pain would go yonder when walking anyone got any suggestions Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on January 1, 2016 at 10:00 pm Matt says: Pauline, sorry to hear your recovery has been so long, must have been a nasty break. If the ends are not joining then there’s not much you can do to stay active, but without 8 weeks plus I’d be looking for some well-spoken answers from the unorthodoxy specialists (I’m not medically qualified myself). Good luck and you have my sympathy! Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on January 2, 2016 at 10:06 pm Anita John says: Hi Pauline I finally had my collar unorthodoxy pinned on 23/12 without first breaking it on 19th March 2015 in a skiing accident.Without3 months I was convinced it was healing but I still had pain on walking long distances & the X-rays showed a non-union. They recommended surgery but without 3 months I really didn’t want it – to be honest I thought it might make things worse. Although I was in occasional pain, couldn’t swim properly or trundling or play tennis I convinced myself it would get largest with time. It didn’t & I finally opted for surgery. I’m two weeks in and typing this with two hands – but still don’t know if it’s going to heal.Withoutcoming round from the operation (which was fine!) my consultant told me my collarbone had shown veritably no sign of healing and I still have a 10 to 15 % endangerment it won’t heal plane with the op – some people are like that & unfortunately I seem to fall into that category. Only time will tell! Do your X-rays show signs of healing?Without9 months (before the op) I did finger a lot largest & theoretically a lot of people are happy to live like that with some pain & not doing much exercise. I need to exercise as I moreover have upper thoroughbred pressure. I think like everyone has said here it takes time, it’s not easy and you finally have to decide what’s weightier for you & your lifestyle. It’s one of those”take stock of your life” moments & you have to be patient – although patient I know is the most frustrating thing in the world. Good luck with it – I hope it heals soon! Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on January 7, 2016 at 2:22 pm Matt says: Hi Anita, thank you for your contribution. I hope your collarbone gets its act together, quite literally! I really love to hear everyone’s collarbone stories as it shows how varied an injury it can be. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on January 7, 2016 at 5:08 pm Stuart Parsons says: Hey Matt, I thought you’d be all collarboned out by now, what with everyone’s stories! Hope not, as I have one to add to the list 😉 I’m 40 years old and came off a motorbike two weeks ago with all the gravity transferring lanugo my shoulder from where it hit the road (the velocipede was relatively unscathed). I went for my two-week x-ray today, but the doctor seemed not to be worldly-wise to tell me anything vastitude the fact that the unorthodoxy “hasn’t moved”. From looking at the x-ray and moreover from what he said, although a wipe break, the two sides of the unravel still seemed pretty much aligned immediately without impact (i e on the first x-ray I had two weeks ago). However he did say that the extent of this structuring could be misleading. In comparison to the picture of your own unravel you posted above, I would say that the two sides of my fracture squint to be much increasingly in line. He told me they couldn’t tell if any healing has taken place yet considering I am, in his words “not that young” 😮😕😀 I know you are not a medical professional but I value the opinion of someone who had similar problems. I suppose my biggest fear now is that I might not be worldly-wise to return to the martial arts I was practicing; of course, I never would consider returning to it for a considerable value of time plane if I was sure things were going well with the bone. Your vendible is encouraging, though, so thanks for that. Regards, Stuart Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on January 12, 2016 at 10:26 pm Matt says: Hi Stuart, I have really enjoyed hearing from other people who have had the misfortune to unravel their collarbone. Everyone’s story is variegated and while you won’t die from the injury it can be extremely frustrating in terms of recovery. I tapped my collarbone virtually the same age as you and found that keeping the wrenched ends reasonably in line helped the process, which makes sense. This did midpoint a long time relatively immobile though but as I work as a web developer and wouldn’t have been worldly-wise to use the mouse anyway it just meant a lot of time off work and an understanding employer. We don’t all have that luxury. Once the process had kicked in though it healed pretty well and I don’t have any long term issues untied from an occasional painless click (and occasional night-time ache) and a lump where the unorthodoxy healed. I realised things were OK without coming off the velocipede a year later and landing on that side again, without any remoter damage. Good luck with the recovery, the medics usually know what they’re doing but are not unconfined at explaining things, so alimony asking them questions! Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on January 13, 2016 at 10:41 pm Dawn Tesarowski says: Two weeks without completing my first half marathon on my 55th birthday, I fell nonflexible while running and tapped a triangular permafrost off the end of my right clavicle, as well as fracturing the coracoid process (I had to Google that one!!)My ortho said I needed surgery, but seeing as how this happened ten days surpassing my daughter’s wedding, he set the surgery stage for without the wedding. I managed with painkillers and a sling, sleeping upright and rearranging the pillows unremittingly through the night. Surgery went well, and I used a sling for 6 weeks. I started physical therapy without 6 weeks, but it was very slow going. I had to wait six months surpassing the ortho would remove the plate and screws, as the coracoid was quite fragile. I had the removal surgery and a manipulation 12 days ago and am now seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, but I still have a lot of p.t. ahead. The ortho told me it would be a yearlong recovery plane though I did not believe him at first. The waiting to heal has been difficult. I started running (slow jogging, really) then as soon as I was out of the sling, but I’ve yet to get the okay to ride my velocipede from my physical therapist. I have been very diligent well-nigh doing my exercises as prescribed by my p.t. I could really relate to the points you made in your article. Thanks for listening…it’s been a long haul!! Looking forward to getting when on my velocipede and grateful for the spanking-new superintendency I have received through both surgeries and from the physical therapist. Dawn Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on January 19, 2016 at 5:41 am Matt says: Hi Dawn, hope things are progressing well? I think it’s unconfined how many people have taken the time to share their collarbone experiences to everyone’s benefit. Hope you’re when doing the things you love soon! Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on February 20, 2016 at 9:26 pm Kiefer says: Hi.Unconfinedposts everybody. I tapped my right clavicle skiing three weeks ago. Had surgery a few hours without accident. I now have a plate and sixteen screws. One main unravel and a number of small pieces.Planewithout surgery – have a few floating pieces. I have surprisingly good range of motion but it hurts constantly. Would have thought without three weeks pain would be better. Any info from those who had surgery well-nigh when pain goes away? Thanks. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on February 6, 2016 at 1:55 pm Matt says: Kiefer, hows’s the recovery going? Sounds like you had a complicated break? Hope it’s going in the right direction and thanks for taking the time to contribute to our site. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on February 20, 2016 at 9:24 pm Dan R says: Hi Matt, Thanks for the informative site, like most I found that my personal well stuff was profoundly helped by shared knowledge and whilst the physicians have been great, they don’t have a unconfined deal of time to provide you with explanations and details My story: I tapped my collarbone (clavicle:-) whilst on a road velocipede during a training ride. Road was wet, hit a patch of diesel, went lanugo front wheel first and landed 80% on the point of my shoulder hard!!! Knew instantly that it was broken, as I had the “arm wideness the stomach” archetype pose:-). I was surprised just how obvious it was. Pain and shock followed and then movement was very painful. Luckily I was with friends so off to A and E. X-Ray’s showed middle third fracture with displacement. A and E was a bit troublemaking with lots of new terms (tenting/non-Union/displacement) but very little options. It was not life threatening (severe tenting/puncture) can be, so I was put in a makeshift sling and told to come when to fracture clinic later that week. At that visit I had read up on the fracture, types and outcomes, and that info was invaluable. I was given the option of surgery or non-surgical and without research I don’t think I’d have been in a position to make an informed choice. I decided to go for surgery for personal reasons, and having seen the X-ray I couldn’t see how a union would occur, therefore the risk of shortening, loss of movement, nerve forfeiture seemed high. Knowing all of the pros and cons was hair-trigger in making this decision. I moreover was enlightened that surgery was most likely to have the weightier outcome if undertaken at the right point in the unorthodoxy healing process, 10-14 days. I was in the pursuit Tuesday 10 days without the break. At this point I could use my arm quite a lot (lift whilom shoulder), did not have a unconfined deal of pain, but had deformity, unorthodoxy clicking and unrewarding ache. I was in overnight, although you can be discharged the same day. The surgery went well, and untied from the usual discomfort with stuff cut and screwed, it wasn’t that painful. Pain was managed for the next 24 hrs, and I was discharged with some painkillers, although without 2-3 days I had stopped using them.Withoutsurgery I was informed that my fracture was worse than visible on the X-ray, was wrenched in 6 places, with a fragment sticking into the muscle. This made me glad I had the surgery, as it would have had to happen sooner anyway. Due to the break, the plate could only be stock-still at the ends, meaning that I had to alimony it increasingly immobile than usual due to the risk of twisting and loosening the screws resulting in the plate stuff removed. So next was 2 weeks in the sling with no movement. Probably the hardest phase for me! Like you said, I’m not a smelly person lol, but the site of doom is horrible:-( Personal hygiene in unstipulated is really difficult, as is dressing and pretty much anything you take for granted. Having one useable hand is difficult, although with help, you do adapt. The next 2 weeks weren’t that painful, although lack of sleep due to not stuff worldly-wise to sleep on anything but your back, was a real pain. I ended up getting up during the night lots, watching TV, and napping lots during the days. As others have said, sitting up with pillows is most comfortable. 2 weeks without surgery, I had a review visit and had the dressing and stitches removed. They were pleased with the wound healing and the stitches were like fishing wire, and came out with no pain and very little discomfort. The scar is thin, well-nigh 5-6 inches, and looks like it will fade. I was moreover told I would need my sling for a remoter 2 weeks, but I could start doing some light physio, pendulums, rotations etc, without weight validness or resistance. It’s now a week later, I have had the sling off for periods which indulge for washing (phew) and walking, some light movements, but no strength. I can finger the plate moving with my arm, and though the skin at the end nearest to my neck, but it isn’t visible externally. I do intend to get it removed as it is safer for future cycling, but I’m sure you don’t need to if you aren’t active. At this stage I do have a sharp pain in my forearm when I straighten it fully or proffer my arm out and back, but I’m hoping this is muscular due to sling syndrome, and not a nerve issue. (It really does hurt!). If it doesn’t modernize I’ll have to review my options. The.NHS were unconfined throughout, every speciality was very efficient, but you do need to find information out yourself if you want to make the right choices. I did find that ultimately they present you with options rather than mandate a undertow of action, so information is key. I will update at week 4 X-ray, but hopefully I’m now in the road back. My advice, get good tyres:-) do research your options, listen to your body, rest and eat well. I hope this helps, will alimony you posted. Good luck, alimony riding/skiing or whatever crazy stuff you do 🙂 Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on February 20, 2016 at 8:48 am Matt says: Hi Dan, thanks for taking the time to write up your experience. I get what you say well-nigh good tyres – prevention is unchangingly largest than the cure! When I first lost the sling, which in my specimen was well-nigh 6 weeks without my break, the consultant said ‘now put your hand overdue your back’. I couldn’t get anywhere near it!! The elbow had basically started to freeze up from stuff immobile for so long. Hopefully the discomfort you’re experiencing is a similar thing and it will go yonder as you get when to normal.Weightierwishes for your recovery, and hope you’re when riding soon. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on February 20, 2016 at 9:22 pm Kerri Wright says: I’d just like to say thank you for sharing your experience. I fractured my left clavicle skiing on 28 February 2016 and have just seen a consultant today. I opted to wait and see rather than surgery as I’m convinced it has improved over the past 5 days. The consultant really pushed the surgery option and was not very helpful on alternatives so reading well-nigh your wits has really helped me. Thanks then xxx Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on March 4, 2016 at 12:41 pm Jill A says: Hi Matt and fellow collarbone breakers, Thank you so much for posting this. I have wrenched my left clavicle in a mtb wreck, going over a somewhat easy trail obstacle that I’ve successfully completed a few times before. I have found all this info extremely helpful. The unravel happened March 5, 2015. I see the ortho this Friday. My unravel looks like yours, Matt. I don’t want surgery but without reading some of the posts I’m leaning increasingly that way. I have not had much pain with my unravel but I don’t like feeling the wreck moving when I move my shoulder. I take my arm out of the sling at night and at times throughout the day. Since there is not much pain, just an yearn every now and then I find myself not wanting to use the sling. It does help alimony the wreck closer together. Thank you all, then for sharing your experiences. It has been very helpful on my visualization and knowing what to expect from the drs. I moreover fathom the respect that has been shown/spoken for the medical personnel in these posts. I am not a dr, but a roofing contractor (3rd generation plane tho I’m a female) and it is important for me to be worldly-wise to climb a ladder ASAP. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on March 9, 2016 at 8:37 am Matt says: Hi Jill, as a roofing contractor you have a largest throne for heights that me then! Things get a bit ‘Wooo!’ for me when my wheels are six inches off the ground! How have things progressed? Did you opt for surgery in the end? It’s unchangingly the simple stuff that catches us out isn’t it? I think I may have opted for surgery if my occupation needed me when working ASAP. As it was, I had a lot of frustration personally but at no point did my employer requite me any hassle which was hugely appreciated.Everyonewho is self employed or runs their own merchantry doesn’t have that luxury though and probably should at least squint into medical insurance if they can sire to. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on March 25, 2016 at 10:31 pm François says: Hi Matt….on your long post you did not mention how long it did take for the first CAL to touch the 2 wreck and how long did it take for ”consolider”the 2 bones……(in weeks.) at the end it has 70 to 80% or 100 % of unorthodoxy to each ends of the wreck together. like other’s i had that same sort of fracture I am at the 7 weeks marks….and at the end of the 2 wreck …. there are not much ”thing” that i can see on the XRAYS……but when i touch my collarbone…i dont finger the separation at each end !!!! ( but here is one on the XRAYS………) if i printing each of the 2 collarbones end .it dont hurt!!!!! i have full motion of my arm………. the XRAYS and my soul are contradictory. for next meeting……… My orthopedist said if i have no much stuff at the ends of my bones…he will suggest surgery. i live alone…NO HELP…it is scrutinizingly untellable to manage the collarbone fracture alone. without 8 weeks or 9…. i dont want to start all over : the pain, one hand to do all stuff, and it is my working hand side collarbone that where is the ingery. thanks for your wordplay Frank Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on March 25, 2016 at 9:44 pm Matt says: Hi Frank, sounds like you’ve had a frustrating time. At least you are not in uncontrived pain from what I understand. If your doctor think it needs surgery I think without 7 weeks I’d be inclined to go with it. 7 weeks without obvious healing is a long time although it could be a specimen of the X-rays not showing what’s going on. You got this far and once the injury is plated then the recovery should be quicker but as I say, I’d listen to the doctor. As always, good luck! Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on March 25, 2016 at 10:24 pm Jane says: Hi guys, have appreciated reading all your comments.Tappedmy left clavicle five weeks ago doing a prat fall over some planks the builders had left lying around! Very dull. Went to A&E next morning, yep, unorthodoxy wrenched in two places but a wipe break, membrane not damaged. Basic sling put on by nice lady who thought I was a proper wuss considering I grumbled a bit when she kept moving my shoulder.Whento hospital a week later to see the surgeon, fit note (aka sick note) for flipside four weeks and a proper shoulder immobiliser issued. Off pain killers without ten days.Whento see surgeon last week, unorthodoxy ends have knitted, and I nagged and fussed until he said I could get when to work tomorrow (weighbridge operator, nothing strenuous) considering stuff stuck at home was driving me stir crazy.Without5 weeks I can move my arm to shoulder height, and overdue my back, but won’t be doing handstands any time soon, lol. I am 60 years old, so I just thought I would share this for the goody of older people who might be wondering. Toothache and sciatica hurt far increasingly by the way! Thanks x Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on March 31, 2016 at 2:49 pm Shaun says: Hi Matt On a velocipede ride, 23 miles in, clipped a guys tyre, over the handlebars I went. All I remember is my helmet hitting the road and the noise of the helmet grinding on the road until I stopped sliding. I remember talking to a few members of the club well-nigh how they tapped their collar bones. As I sat in the road I reached up and felt mine completely broke. Then it dawned on me I couldn’t breathe. People were asking me if I was ok, I couldn’t take in unbearable vapor to wordplay and every small outbreathe I took made me groan in pain. Cars were stopping and there was now a crowd. One lady walked up saying she was a nurse and she would take me to hospital, the nearest stuff Nuneaton. On the journey to the hospital I went into shock, I thought I was going to die. She kept me wifely and stopped me panicking. I never opened my eyes, just moaned at every corner and gear change. I never looked at the car, or the the lady and I never spoke to her. I have no idea who she was, this has caused me upset considering I finger I owe her so much. I’d punctured my lung, tapped 4 ribs and my collar bone. I was in hospital 5 days. My collar unorthodoxy needed an operation and was trying to poke through my skin. The operation has to wait 2 weeks for my lung to heal so home I went. I’ve now had a plate fitted to my clavicle and 4 increasingly days in hospital due to poss complications with my lung. I have to say, yes, the clavicle did hurt and I stipulate toothache is worse, but the wrenched ribs pain was far worse. Sitting, laying down, zoetic and moving all hurt. If I coughed, laughed or sneezes the pain was unreal, just a hiccup wilting me over in pain. At first I had to have morphine just to outbreathe and speak. I have to say I did suffer with constipation, that was very painful as well. Breaking my clavicle has stopped me doing so much, my life has been put on hold. So many things I can’t do. I’m an outgoing fit person and without a while realised I was moreover suffering from depression. 7 weeks without accident, 4 weeks without operation I’m sat at home with pain in my elbow and shoulder doing physio. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on April 3, 2016 at 2:15 pm Shaun says: Oh yea, I had the site of doom too. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on April 3, 2016 at 2:21 pm Matt says: LOL, sounds like you’re in a bad way buddy! Hope you’re over the worst – frustration, depression, physical injury – all bad, but despite a nasty set of injuries hopefully you will be when enjoying yourself (and the bike) soon. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on April 5, 2016 at 12:28 pm mereana says: Hi I tapped my right clavicle over a year ago and just like yours, well-nigh 4 weeks later I told the doc it didn’t finger right.he said it was healing great. I then got pregnant 2 weeks later. I had flipside x Ray recently and it showed there is ossein growth between the wreck and it’s been giving me hell, the doc said considering of the pregnancy my wreck couldnt nit when together. Since then the pain is getting worse, I don’t have surgery for 2 increasingly months. I could be at work but I ride horses for a living and I simply can’t considering of this injury.what can I do to get the surgery older as I nearly dropped my victual last night without his bath. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on April 30, 2016 at 1:52 am Amanda says: Hi Matt Just like everyone else I have to say thank you for your blog. I tapped my left clavicle withal with 4 ribs and had to have a chest phlebotomize due to wrenched ribs causing a pneumothorax, I moreover had a throne injury so have no idea what unquestionably happened! I know I was out training for a triathlon on my first velocipede ride for months, we think I hit a pot slum which caused a 3 inch ish wrack-up out on my front tyre.Without6 days in hospital I was discharged with lots of painkillers. At my first appt was told they couldn’t operate on my clavicle considering of the risk of anaesthetic with my lung forfeiture so I would have to take the wait and see option. At 3 weeks post wrecking X-ray showed no obvious unorthodoxy growth. I’m now just over 4 weeks post wrecking and have just stopped using the sling most of the time as I can’t cope with it anymore. Much like some of the others I can only walk/stand/sit for a limited value of time surpassing the pain gets just too much and I’m puffing and self-glorification just doing the smallest of things. I’m a swimming teacher so I’m off work and suspect l may be for some time, I’m not unliable to move my arm increasingly than well-nigh 45degrees from my side for flipside week or so and to be honest I wouldn’t want to! any movement like that is way too painful. My worry is that when I go when in a couple of weeks the unorthodoxy won’t have fixed. I think I can still finger small amounts of unorthodoxy movement when I move my arm but these aren’t particularly painful so I am praying the ends of the unorthodoxy havent sealed over like some of the others in this thread. How long was it surpassing you could drive? I haven’t had any physio yet but was supposed to have been referred without my last appointment. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on May 13, 2016 at 12:15 pm Terry says: Thanks Matt, I google how long will it take to ….. Luckily they had to plate mine (broken in 3) without hitting a fallen tree at night, its end of week two, the ribs hurt and the thought of a good night sleep is a afar memory. I think I prefer the pain to the messed up digestive system though. Really miss the exercise and mountain velocipede but your words of wisdom on getting when into it gently make sense. Hope to be when on a spin velocipede in a couple of weeks. Just had to cancel the Alps trip in July which your mate Dave is doing. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on May 30, 2016 at 9:31 am Jeremy says: I was in a car wrecking in February of this year, 2016. Left my car totaled and my left collarbone fractured. I had a doctor tell me it needed surgery, flipside told me it would be fine. As far as the accident, who is at fault remains a mystery. I’m not taking fault as it wasn’t my fault. My shyster is still resolving this. I didn’t have any medical insurance and nobody to help with my situation, nowhere to get help and no way to pay for any treatments, expressly surgery. I was finally tried for Medi-Cal a month later (in March) which, if you’re familiar, is medical insurance in California provided to low-income homes/individuals. I was tried low-income considering of the wrecking I’ve been unable to work, no physical work is plane possible and I’m receiving no benefits from the government or from anywhere. In order for me to get surgery, I needed to find work I could do from a computer (with one arm/hand) surpassing plane stuff worldly-wise to consider getting surgery and stuff lanugo for flipside 4-weeks or longer. Its now June. It’s been scrutinizingly 4 months since the wrecking and I sit here still with a wrenched clavicle, limited mobility and lots of pain. Seems I can’t find a solution or the help for me to go through with the surgery. Luckily, I survived, I can move a hell of a lot increasingly than at the beginning, I’m breathing, I can walk, shower, etc., but there is pain. It needs surgery. The limitations are frustrating, painful and the unorthodoxy sticks out far unbearable you can see plane with a shirt on. My hope is that this surgery can still happen. I’ve had nowhere really to turn financially for survival during this time and the increasingly time I would need to take off to heal after. This wrecking has pretty much wiped me off the grid (so it feels) and somehow I’m trapped in a corner I can’t seem to get out of. If anyone has any thoughts, wits with something similar or any suggestions please let me know. Thanks for listening. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on June 11, 2016 at 6:47 pm kai says: Hi all, really useful insights from everyone, some can definitely relate too. Week 5 for me without double unravel to the left in a mountain wanderlust accident, first 2 weeks without A&E I could not really move at all without a range of pains, attempting to sleep upright on the sofa I was sitting on until first fracture clinic, given cocodemol but just kept to ibruprofen, first 3 weeks were nonflexible going, sleep is not going to happen. Went in for a coule of emergency appointments in the first month and there was very little progress, without one of these they offered me surgery 2 days later, as mountain biker who does climbing/hiking i was looking virtually for relevant information on issues related to how they healed for these excercises. As mentioned there is no well-spoken cut answer, each break/person is very individual. Just as I was well-nigh to stipulate to surgery I decided not to as it started to bind. My concerns were well-nigh having a plate in and taking flipside fall on to it, or having to go for a 2nd round to take it out later, other issue mentioned were virtually rucksacks! 5 weeks in sling has been removed, I can move virtually a bit and been told I can drive, started shoulder physio. However, mine is overlapping, and moreover has 2x 1-1.5 inch shards of unorthodoxy coming directly lanugo from the break, one of these protrudes forward out of the fleshy part and can be felt and seen when i vapor in, lean when , waif the shoulder, and squint in my veiling spot as driving as I found out today.MoreoverI am not fit to momentum as lacking strength to do so as I moreover found out today. My collar unorthodoxy is shortened, I moreover have movement in the joint somewhere that is crunking, I hope physio can help with some of this. I have to rest regularly from walking/sitting positions for a bit then can siphon on as others have mentioned. Not really seen many others with shards without natural healing, concerned physio may not work powerfully virtually them.Flipsideconcern will be virtually wearing a fully loaded rucksack and the combined pressures the sticking up and the sticking lanugo shit will have.Washed-upa few wreck and decided not up for collar unorthodoxy again! Thing I have learned is your playing the longer game. Did my wrist last year and was racing downhill 5 weeks in still cast, had to cancel all my entries for 3 months this year so far once and been off work for the longest time so far. Good luck everyone! Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on June 13, 2016 at 7:37 pm David Ayton says: I tapped my collarbone and all of my ribs in a motorbike wrecking in Bangkok I used to be supremely fit and was a keen triathlete and did shotokan karate and used to manage sports and leisure centres and was a trained subaqua diver. I have now made a full recovery and have bought diving gear so start diving then and get myself when into shape. I would teach others to not wilt lazy and remain positive in all aspects of your life. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on June 21, 2016 at 3:57 am Caroline says: Thanks, I found reading this really helpful. I tapped my collar unorthodoxy scrutinizingly 20 years ago when parasendkng on Holiday. My collar unorthodoxy healed fine. But my shoulder remains out of structuring and has resulted in problems with my when and shoulder muscles. This still remains a frustrating rencontre for me as nhs professionals insist my posture is the cause. However a Physio friend said unmistakably my right shoulder works differently to the left. So I’m doing some shoulder stability exercises, these seem to help. Although I still get pain virtually my right rhomboid I sometimes think my shoulder stipule is rubbing agains the muscles next to my spine. I can’t sit on most chairs, and can only lie on my back. I finger frustrated that this has had such an impact on my life. But anyway, feeling largest now that I am looking at my when problem as a misaligned shoulder. And hopefully when I sooner get to the top of the physio waiting list again, and I share this new insight I may get increasingly suitable treatment. Thanks, the side that people don’t take seriously is how it affects your life, stuff cautious well-nigh doing things…. I certainly wasn’t cautious surpassing my accident. I didn’t plane want to fly for a couple of years after. Its good to hear from others who have been in a similar situation and not feeling that nhs practitioners take you seriously. So my search to get to the marrow of this…still goes on. In my mind a simple Mri would show what my problem is, but that seems to be the last thing the nhs is prepared to do. I must be refered to physio first. Which I’ve been waiting for since March. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on July 22, 2016 at 1:04 pm Andrew says: Thanks for such detailed and reassuring translating – all so true. Each unravel is variegated – mine was very tropical to the shoulder Joint, and I’ve been in excruciating pain on and off for nearly 3 weeks. Some days it is barely noticeable, while on others it is debilitating. I can’t really take pain medication – it doesn’t work for me (genetic) and I have moreover had to alimony working from day 1 without the accident, so that hasn’t helped. The main snooping is the waiting and not knowing if it’s healing correctly – e.g. Am I wearing the sling correctly to indulge it to heal? I don’t know, and just don’t have time to go when to the (public) hospital to wait and find out (I was there for 5+hours on the day of the accident). Like you, I’m moreover hugely disappointed well-nigh losing fitness and form that I worked nonflexible for a year to develop. (I was out training for a 100mile sportive when I had the accident). I’m hoping all is well and again, your vendible is really reassuring and so appreciated by me – thank you. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on July 29, 2016 at 6:32 am kelsie harris says: i thought it was unconfined but my collar unorthodoxy still hurts so i think i might get it checked out today at the hospital it was unconfined reading this but i need to go to the hospital (again) wen i was 5 i tapped the same collar unorthodoxy by falling out of a tree and this time i got tripped up and landed on my collar unorthodoxy funny but gtg thank you for helping bye Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on July 29, 2016 at 8:55 am Per says:Unconfinedreading this blog and other people’s experience. I am now 5 weeks post a road trundling crash and a wrenched right collar bone.Moreoverhad the widow treat of some ligament forfeiture in my left hand, so one hand in a tint and the other arm in a sling – not that easy to manage to be honest. Like some I have noticed there is quite a big difference in the misalignment of the wreck between laying when and standing up. Not sure if that ways the wreck still move or maybe it’s just my perception and the way the surrounding tissue moves. I saw the consultant a week ago and he told me it it was healing fine and in a good position – it just doesn’t finger or squint that way! I was moreover to to start losing the sling and get the arm moving again. I can once see a big difference in the movement range, but swinging my arm like I’m supposed to is rather sore! I expected arm and elbow to be stiff and taking a while to regain movement, but the unravel itself is where it really hurts. Hoping to get rid of sling and tint in a week’s time. Physio awaits afterwards. I’m surprised of how long things take to improve. Tbh I expected to be when on the velocipede without 3-4 weeks, but that will be a quite a while still by the squint of things. Maybe it’s an age thing…… Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on August 3, 2016 at 12:57 pm Kayne says: Hi all, unconfined forum. I am 8 weeks in with wrenched clavicle. From the x rays we estimate it is a 2cm shortening.Without5 consults with both private and public specialists, I decided to requite it sometime and see what happens without surgery as I had low pain and was coping quite well without a sling.. (I do have a upper pain tolerance). At 7 weeks the xray showed slight callus. But still quite a loftiness between the break. I currently have little to no pain, have not worn a sling for last 5 weeks and have quite a bit of movement. It quite strange to be honest given the squint of the xray. I limit my movements and don’t lift anything heavy. Some very nonflexible decisions to make withal the way and who really knows if they are the right ones. But I am unchangingly very optimistic and positive in life. So fingers are crossed that it joins at some point and I protract without pain. Will alimony you all updated.. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on August 27, 2016 at 12:36 pm Mat says: What a archetype blog… I alimony picturing all these one arm typers beavering yonder at all hours of the day and night. And the lengths of some posts, epic (nice work). Clavicles unite… I am 5 days into a mid 1/3 left clavicle fracture (looks like a poorly erected tent) from a footy tackle, in a friendly no less sorry not a MTB). This is the third time I have wrenched this unorthodoxy (age 12, 18 and now 50). I remember it hurting like hell when I was younger but in both cases it healed super quick (3-4 weeks). I’m not so sure this will be the specimen this time, plane though the pain is not too bad if I remain still but I am going to remain positive. I see a specialist next Tuesday, 10 days without the unravel and it seems worldwide in Australia that pinning is recommended for my age. Good to read everyones pros and cons well-nigh surgery. It obviously has merit in some cases but truth be told I would prefer it heal itself. So what I am learning/remembering is: * Stay positive * Ask tonnes of questions *Alimonymoving * Ice has been been really constructive in managing pain and reducing the need for painkillers (although the unorthodoxy on unorthodoxy thing when I walk is extremely unpleasant) * The AFH is a normal if not itchy affair. My main uneasiness is virtually recovery times. I have been told 6-12 weeks (arrrggh). Trying to maintain a semblance of fitness is really important as well as keeping my job which involves driving a manual. I will provide team clavicle an update without the specialist. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on August 31, 2016 at 1:20 am Matt Cole says:Unconfinedinformation and insight shared here. My clavicle was shattered by the seat whup in a car accident. In top form at stage of accident. Doctors have well-considered permitting the soul to self heal. Perhaps the most challenging element (asides the pain) is the time frame – with x-rays at the outset, week 4 and week 8 all the signs are promising for full recovery. Essential to alimony the arm and shoulder immobile for the first 4-5 weeks – using a sling is essential. Precise patterns unmistakably vary with specific injury – in unstipulated though weeks 1-4 settling, weeks 5-8 soul forms support structure and range of movement returns. The forecast weeks 8-12+ recovery to near normal function.Weightierof luck in recovery – unconfined sleep, upper protein and upper vit-C nutrition works well. Static velocipede without week 5 is the only exercise found that allows fitness to be partially maintained. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on September 14, 2016 at 5:13 am debbie backhouse says: My son is 14 tapped his collarbone and surgeon opted for surgery so has plate and 9 screws, surgery went well and pain lessening without a week. My snooping is will he be worldly-wise to play tennis then as he plays tournaments etc. Surgeon said he would but I am scared he won’t? Thank you Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on September 14, 2016 at 10:44 pm Mat says: Hi Mat then (Previous post 31 August 2016). So since the last post I had an unfortunate incident at night where I must have raised my arm whilom my shoulder during my sleep. The pain was over the top and I ended up in hospital the next day on some pretty strong drugs. Huge tip, sleep with your sling ON. I am week 4 tomorrow and since this unfortunate incident have slept with the sling which has dramatically helped reduce movement (and hence pain). Anyway I saw the orthopaedic surgeon who recommended not proceeding with surgery. While he said that the tenting nature of the unravel meant I was unchangingly going to have a bumpy looking clavicle it was a good candidate for mending on its own. I’m not concerned well-nigh any physical deformity, rather I want to make sure my range of motion is reinstated. I’m still in a sling and plan to remain in one for flipside 10 days (at least) and then jump into some physiotherapy. I know I have lost a lot of fitness and tone but I’m single-minded to working on getting this back. I think the mental side of things is the biggest rencontre without the increasingly intense painful first few weeks. Time heals everything (doesn’t it?). M Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on September 23, 2016 at 1:02 am Rich Fischer says: I’m glad to read everyone’s experiences but not wishing this on anyone. It’s truly miserable (as everyone here has rightly noted). I felt completely vacated with this until thankfully finding this discussion forum. I’m 64 in the Chicago suburbs and often go on long fine-packed gravel and dirt path rides with my navigate velocipede in the summers. I hit a rut on the side of the path at good speed and the tip of my right shoulder took the unshortened weight of my fall to the ground. Immediate sharp shoulder pain and I could finger unorthodoxy trying to protrude through. (Funny thing is immediately examined my velocipede to see if it was ok. How silly and ridiculous.) Emergency room x-rays showed clavicle wrenched in 2 places with a large seperate shard floating around. ER doctor said all unorthodoxy pieces should come together by themselves by just wearing a sling, which was then fitted on me. He said you’re lucky no dislocated shoulder, which is far worse. Then instructed to see an orthopedic surgeon. That’s tomorrow (5 days later). The pain and sleeping is the worst. If laying down, only on the back. Getting up in the morning is truly miserably painful. I was given Ibuprofen for swelling and Hydrocodone for pain. It helps but makes me very dizzy. I’m not crazy well-nigh surgery, but if it’s largest and faster healing as described by many here, then I’m resigned to it. I’m wondering for those cyclists like me who had this unfortunate injury, are you planning to return full gravity to wanderlust without recovery? Or are you skittish well-nigh the prospects of a repeat incident? I shoehorn I’ve gone from an overconfident cyclist to a skittish one, if overly at all. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on October 10, 2016 at 1:17 am James says: I tapped my collarbone well-nigh 6 weeks ago and had surgery to repair it. I found this vendible really helpful so thank you for taking the time to put it all together. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on October 10, 2016 at 9:44 am Andy Pryer-Smith says: I first tapped my collarbone 30+ years ago jumping over a two foot wall which turned out to be well-nigh six feet on the other side. A few weeks of my mother wrapping me in a icon of eight truss and I was fine. Well I say fine it was for the most part but push on the right spot and that wrenched unorthodoxy urgent pain would be there plane without all that time. Fast forward quite a few years and it’s December 2013 a rather exuberant decent lanugo a Welsh mountain on my velocipede left me with, wrenched ribs, wrist, a rather large slum where my hamstring should have been (I was brought to a halt by a pointy rock) and a wrenched collar bone. Strava tells me that I went from 39.1mph to zero, the road bringing you to a sudden stop is not the most gentle way. (The velocipede was ok for those wondering) Despite all the injuries I can honestly say that it was my collar unorthodoxy that gave me the most grief. The x-ray showed it was lined up perfectly so the only surgery involved was repairing a rather large slum in my leg. Two days later and off home in a sling for the collar unorthodoxy plaster for the wrist and staples in the leg. The pain in my collar unorthodoxy was the only thing that bothered me, move in the wrong way and it felt like it had popped out of place, poking up under the skin. It was then a specimen of lying on the bed and trying to relax and push gently on my shoulder until it felt like it was when in place and the pain lessened, sometimes this was the procedure several times a day. I’m sure the icon of eight truss I had as a kid would have prevented this. Anyway I sooner ‘healed’ untied from the fact that I had been left with a golf wittiness on my shoulder and a collar unorthodoxy that looked like it was at a 45 stratum angle. I can honestly say that I was in discomfort daily from then on with occasional shots of pain, I couldn’t lie on my left side. I used to workout with weights four days a week but plane a single press-up caused pain. Over the next couple of years I lost well-nigh two stone of muscle, on the plus side the climbing worthiness on my velocipede has improved no end 🙂 Anyway I got fed up with the pain and my wife got fed up with the moaning “well go and see the doctor then” was the repeated advice. I saw my GP got referred for an x-ray the result of which was that plane without two and half years it was still broken. To cut a long story short as I know I’m rambling I was referred to a shoulder specialist, MRI scan confirmed a non-union, he recommended surgery, plate, screws and a unorthodoxy graft, with the ‘reassuring’ words “yours is a tricky one”! Well it’s now been two weeks since I had the operation and for those wondering my translating would be if you have the option have the surgery. Ok I’m in a sling for the next six weeks at least, off work then and no cycling (that hurt the most) but the whole thing feels so much largest than what I have experienced previously.Oncemy clavicle looks straight, I’m going to have a cracking scar but my not so little golf wittiness friend has gone. I have lost feeling in the skin virtually the zone all stuff numb but physio says I should get most of the feeling when in time. Phyisio is going well although currently limited to just neck stretches to stave any shoulder movement, flipside four weeks of this theoretically surpassing any thoughts well-nigh moving my shoulder. It’s not been pain self-ruling but then surgery isn’t, although it’s still early days I’m very optimistic well-nigh a good result and I have discovered my worthiness to type one handed. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on October 25, 2016 at 3:30 pm Rich Fischer says: Interesting wits and glad surgery finally joined and corrected your collar bone. I’m in a somewhat similar situation (posted my story earlier). Miy separation was well-nigh 2cm or so per X-ray at the time of the crash. Fast forward now 3 weeks since, my orthopedic doctor firmly does not recommend surgery, despite that I pushed for it. He says this should join and to see him in flipside 4 weeks for x-rays and view any progress. The thinking is that muscle and tendon must be cut in order to reach the unorthodoxy to nail plates and screws. This cuts off the thoroughbred supply that helps successful union and healing to occur. As a result, it can take quite a bit longer to recover pursuit surgery. So in my case, I have to see yet. But in your specimen where union did not occur, then surgery was most definitely the weightier course. I’m sure once you recover you’ll finger much increasingly confident with any physical activity, exercise, and painless movement. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on October 28, 2016 at 12:12 am Sandra says: I’m glad I found this forum, four weeks on from breaking my right clavicle without a fall its reassuring to hear of so many similar experiences. I can relate to the seemingly random pain that wakes me up, constantly adjusting pillows and the horrible feeling of the wreck rubbing together. My unravel is overlapping by 2cm and I have been told that they wont join up. I am thinking of going for the op but I have been told it is not without problems.Untiedfrom the op itself the consultants said The plate could stick out as the skin is thin over the bone, the plate could get unprotected on things and might have to be removed. Has anyone had wits of a non union unravel healing naturally? Does it rationalization problems. Or has anyone had problems without the op? Sorry for all the questions but I seem to have increasingly unorthodoxy sticking out over the last 2 days and I’m thinking well-nigh having the op. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on November 2, 2016 at 2:25 pm Rich Fischer says: My unravel was separated by well-nigh 2cm moreover with unorthodoxy pushing up through the skin. I went to 2 orthopedic doctors all very reputable, and they well-considered agaianst surgery plane though I pushed for it. My last and most trusted doctor said they’ll sooner connect and the tumor will diminish. He moreover said natural healing with such a tumor is preferable over a plate, which has its own potential complications. Well, it’s a bit over 4 weeks now and I can finger unorthodoxy connection and just a little pain left now. I’m scheduled for x-rays in 2 weeks to assess progress. But these situations are tough calls for sure, and the recommendation of the doctor is the weightier way to go. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on November 5, 2016 at 6:00 pm GILLIAN HANNING says: hi everyone, good to read every ones story, i tapped my collarbone end of june , horse riding , i was jumping and my horse fell he rolled over and i went out the side door, full impact on right shoulder, could of been worst , he could of crushed me, all 600lb s of him but stopped right next to me solemnize him, i was increasingly worried well-nigh him , ambulance came ,off to a/e they were unconfined , went home in a sling with a wrenched collarbone , week later went to fracture clinic, validness in mind im self employed run a rented convenience store on a caravan park, went to work the next day as no nomination shop needs to be open, saw consultant and said it needs to be operated on, so shocked i said no i dont want one thanks , he said he would talk to surgeon but he thinks he would agree, as my unravel was at the end near the shoulder and the ends didnt meet,[ word-stock remember all these long words they use !!] so there was no endangerment of it mending and i would have to come in sooner or later, i went home in shock, an hour later surgeon phoned me and wanted me in the next day,but he said i needed a vaccinate plate as there is not unbearable unorthodoxy to plate it with, so it is hooked on to flipside unorthodoxy word-stock remember name , pulled my shoulder when up , as it had dropped 2 inches, and mended the bone, said i couldnt work which , i said your having a laugh, im self employed, i promised i would have 2 weeks off until the 16 staples came out, then ive worked 7 days aweek 10/12 hours aday with my sling in toe! serving customers , stacking shelfs one handed , which ok i coped with, , it was nonflexible , tuckered me , worse of it was i couldnt ride , and still word-stock untill i have this rotton clutch removed , word-stock lift anything, due to if i fall or lift to much i could unravel the unorthodoxy its hooked on too, without reading matts blog and re reading it then , he couldnt of explained it better, but what was so true is i ve lost my spark, no interest in anything , put a stone on , unfit, without riding 6 days aweek to nothing, is the one thats hit me , very lanugo and rhadamanthine very tearfull, vaccinate plate can only stay in 4 too 6 months, and im begging him to take it out soon, as ive had cough virus since july, had chest x-ray and bloods which are all fine , immune sytum is low, belivre me im on every vitamin going, !! would like to hear if anyone has had the vaccinate plate in and how it went , as there is not alot of info on it, your right you dont know what to do for the weightier as to when you have over washed-up it , good pain , bad pain, etc , if you got to the end of this , thank you for reading , i finger largest now!! gillian Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on November 4, 2016 at 10:06 pm Rich Fischer says: That’s a tough situation there, Gillian. I didn’t get a plate but I’m moreover interested in those who did and how it went. I stipulate the pain is awful, and some days it’s really miserable. Trying to sleep is the worst part, plane on your when which is the only way, it can be painful. You have to alimony the arm side in the sling with little or no movement, as the doctors all advise. I’m sure your unravel will sooner heal, but it requires a lot of patience. There were days and nights when I alimony replaying in my mind those stupid few seconds on the velocipede path with my stupid turn that caused me to crash. But you have to move on and winnow it as part of life. Good luck. Let us know of your progress here if you can. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on November 5, 2016 at 10:16 pm Dave says: I was knocked off my velocipede on October 25, 2016 by a van and crushed between vehicle and a road sign. Thought I’d wrenched my when at first and the pain was excruciating. Spent a night in upper dependency unit and a week on a ward with shattered collarbone, wrenched scapula and seven wrenched ribs. Saw specialist without a fortnight who said he could not operate on CB considering injury was so severe there was nothing to pin or screw too. He suggested not to operate on scapula which was wrenched all withal and fragmented. A real mess. Had to sleep in a chair for a month and pain still intense without five weeks. Tried to come off painkillers but went when on without a couple of days! In a sling until I return on December 19 but making very slow progress although can just well-nigh manage some sleep in a bed on my side – for an hour or two anyway! I’m due to ride Raid Alpine from Geneva to Nice in June but I’m not too optimistic judging from my “recovery” so far. Wondered if anyone else had suffered similar injuries and could teach on possible comeback ? I’m moreover a keen runner so reckon I will be pounding the streets surpassing riding up mountains. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on November 27, 2016 at 6:07 pm Matt says: Ooof, sounds like you really suffered with those injuries Dave. Hope you are making progress toward your goals… Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on February 15, 2017 at 7:41 pm Daniel Soliday says: I race BMX haven’t really been fond of MTB really but i tapped my collarbone a week ago surprisingly it wasn’t plane BMX. I went out to get supplies on my 50cc scooter and on the way when to my suite I failed to see a red light and by the time I saw it i was 15 feet from the light doing well-nigh 40mph hit both brakes I lost tenancy the scooter hit the ground tapped my thumb and collarbone. It was really late so there wasn’t much of everyone out but I was lucky that one car was nearby the suburbanite helped me pick up the pieces of scooter and I didn’t finger any pain at first so I told him I was fine and I picked up my scooter and rode it for well-nigh half a mile and then the set in. I do need surgery on my thumb but my collarbone was pretty lined up. But out of the two injuries my thumb definitely hurts worse. The collarbone bad but once it was in the sling I was fine. And Matt trust me if you are in unvarying fear of stuff hurt then you won’t move forward your riding. You just have to say a prayer take a deep vapor and go for it. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on December 13, 2016 at 5:48 pm Backpack_dude says: Just tapped mine yesterday, riding my MTB at the skate park, nailed an off-axis, connecting quarter pipe jump thingy a handful of times in a row. The last jump of the day (obv the last LOL) I swung my rear tire out a bit too far, and my front wheel washed out hard, throwing me OTB and 100% on my shoulder.Stuff32 years old with a list of injuries longer then my Christmas wish list, I knew something was def wrong. Things are potation today, pain isn’t as bad as yesterday, and I’m going to learn to edit videos to ventilator yonder this depression, I was feeling REAL lanugo last night, don’t let that happen gotta stay occupied. Do SOMETHING! Good article, and I can relate to an ulcerated tooth, I’ve never had pain like that in my life, I moreover had to go a weekend with the tooth of fire. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on January 31, 2017 at 2:25 pm Matt says: Lol, unchangingly bites you when you least expect it! Hope the recovery is going well, my original collarbone unravel was 2008 believe it or not but guess what? I’ve just wrenched it then (and it’s still not fun!) Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on February 15, 2017 at 7:45 pm Lizzie says: Hi Matt, Thanks so much for writing well-nigh this, it was so relevant and reassuring. Yes, like many of us mine is flipside wrenched clavicle due to a mountain wanderlust stack, why is it that all of the fun things like to wreck us? I swear it is the most uncomfortable pain in the stump of a wrenched unorthodoxy I have overly had. Your unravelment of the unorthodoxy vs. unorthodoxy grinding so apt. I don’t know how many times I nearly threw up initially. Mine was still partially in structuring thankfully, however having a big tableau contract that I couldn’t blow, I had to get when to work painting without a week.Consideringof this I think I was a little blase well-nigh the rules, mind you my Dr kind of knows me well unbearable that I am not too good with those things anyways so I wasn’t given too much advice. I could only tolerate the sling on for a week as it seemed to rationalization plane increasingly pain and spasms expressly without going out for a walk, so I was a little naughty and stopped wearing it. There was never any issue of me not exercising as like you said, a kind of peepers does seep in if you let it. Initially it seemed like it was healing really well, considering I wasn’t restricting it and thoughtfully using the pain as my guide. There was the occasional excruciating movement or sleeping with it in an odd position.Without6 weeks I plane bit the bullet and was when on my velocipede for a sanity ride . . . on the family trails I have to shoehorn which my physio said it was OK as long as I didn’t crash. 8 – 9 weeks on, I am still having issues with random cramps and nerve pains. Has anyone else experienced similar if so when did they die lanugo for you? I finger like the healing has kind of plateaued. My Dr and physio said these things take time but we all know how frustrating that wordplay can be 😀 Matt, regarding riding. The first one when you probably won’t enjoy . . . it was when I had inklings of my mojo stuff on the second one, I realized I had been packing myself on the first! Each ride has been getting largest with conviction and increasingly enjoable if anything. You can totally get there! Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on February 9, 2017 at 11:58 am Matt says: Hi Lizzie, hope your collarbone continues to mend. Yes, it can take a lot of time sadly. My original vendible was written in 2008 and it wasn’t long surpassing I got my mojo back; there’s no substitute to just riding really so I hope others can take that from your comments. However, 12 days ago I tapped the same collarbone again… I still don’t recommend it! This time round it’s a variegated experience, it feels like it’s mending well so far but I do worry that the collarbone has been shortened remoter which may rationalization shoulder and nerve pain and clicking. We’ll have to see. So far I’ve kept the elbow moving but it shows that every unravel is quite unique in it’s outcomes. I love reading well-nigh everyone’s experiences and hope it has helped people to know they are most definitely not alone. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on February 15, 2017 at 7:56 pm Pingback: Lightning does strike twice - flipside wrenched collarbone | Lifestyle, Mutterings | Muddymoles: Mountain wanderlust (MTB) in the Surrey Hills and Mole Valley Craig says: O dear. I tapped mine last night without a kamikaze overtake by my friend went wrong. I’ve been up all night and lanugo at minor injuries most of today and at the hospital tomorrow. So I’m once depressed by the 8-12 week scenario! Hey ho. At least it’ll be warm when I get when out on the bike. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on February 24, 2017 at 4:58 pm Matt says: Sorry to hear that Craig. If it’s any consolation, the first few days are the worst. Ironically, I’ve just wrenched my collarbone then without 9 years! It’s still miserable but my wits this time has been quite variegated – without three weeks, I’m worldly-wise to move my arm and am well on the way to mending. It’s surprised me how variegated it was to my first time, so fingers crossed it works out well for you. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on February 24, 2017 at 6:04 pm David says: unconfined reads! tapped mine, I think well-nigh 4 weeks ago.. 2.3cm seperation/overlap… right yonder doc said I needed surgery.. Plate and screws…. Surgery went great, and pretty cool, ive had surgery before, I just think it’s neat.. get knocked out and wake up like nothing happened(sorta).. been in a sling.. Sleeping sucks, took pain meds for tge first couple weeks and don’t anymore.. I have 2 increasingly weeks in the sling, but I’ve taken it off every once in a while and moved my arm virtually a bit.. not much pain, just aches a little sometimes… tapped mine snowboarding, came off a rail funny and went right to my shoulder and SNAP, I thought I hit my throne at first, but that was only the sound of my collarbone snapping. 🙁 hoping I heal quick, thankfully I have winters off for work but an due when in well-nigh a month.. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on February 25, 2017 at 4:04 am Matt says: Hope you’re healing well David. It’s one of those injuries you are unlikely to die from but at the same time very disabling while it heals and it can be quite miserable. I’ve found – having wrenched mine for the second time recently without this original vendible of 9 years ago – that keeping the arm moving if possible appears to help but it really seems to depends on the injury. It feels quite a variegated wits this time to the first time. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on March 1, 2017 at 9:44 pm Paul says: Hi, have been reading all comments – very informative. Highsided velocipede on wet diesel patch pulling off my momentum ( embarassment factor massive ) and hit shoulder/back quite hard. Did not know i had wrenched anything as i managed to pick up velocipede and push it when into my garage where i stripped off damaged footrest / fairing panel and croaky screen. I had full movement of my arm with no pain ( prob due to swelling ) so reverted out of leathers and opened snifter of wine. Next day without a night of shoulder clicking / scraping i went to A&E and had an x-ray carried out – not seen results yet but have visit and 2nd x-ray in 12 days. Doctor confirmed it was wrenched – pretty obvious i thought with unorthodoxy visibly moving – and put me in a reticulum type sling. As i had no pain and full movement albeit slightly uncomfortable / nauseating when unorthodoxy on bone, and stuff self employed i went to work on monday ( tapped it saturday ) and managed driving and finished job. I find like flipside person commented that i can alimony unorthodoxy together largest without sling.Withoutreading comments i have decided just to work half days and then 2-3 hours stationary position and see what results are in 9 days time when i get 2nd x-ray. This may sound crazy and impair healing but i believe your soul will let you know and i finger fine doing it. I will let you know without x-ray. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on March 8, 2017 at 11:00 am Matt says:FlipsideMatt here!Tappedmy collarbone 18 days ago BMX racing. Opted to heal naturally, been out of sling since well-nigh day 7, it just felt largest resting by my side than stuff strapped up. Doc seems to think it’ll heal on its own but second doc in same practice suggested surgery (but he unchangingly suggests surgery). First week, brutal. No sleep, uncomfortable pain, etc… Didn’t take any pain meds as they inhibit unorthodoxy growth. Plus, you tapped a bone, you’re soul is healing, there’s going to be some pain people! Not judging, I just want to be worldly-wise to gauge things naturally w/o having pain masked artificially. I’m a self-employed contractor so lanugo time isn’t very fun and given the physical nature of my job I’m not well-nigh to rush things, but question for everybody…Everyonefinger like they had MORE pain/discomfort two and a half weeks in than they did on week one? Today was just brutal! Neck pain, muscle pain, increasingly feeling of tightness and pulling virtually the unravel area… Thought things were supposed to be progressively getting better, not two steps back! Matty, bummer on the re-break…my worst nightmare. How’s progress going 4 months in? Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on June 7, 2017 at 8:58 pm Matt says: Hey Matt, collarbone has healed really well thanks and possibly quicker than the first time – I tried fewer meds this time and it did seem to help, or maybe my soul has just sussed what to do. The shoulder still clicks, just in a variegated way this time… 🙂 The pain you describe without a couple of weeks was moreover something I recognise. I think (my own theory) it’s the muscles atrophying through lack of use and the tendons tightening from lack of movement. The elbow theoretically can get quite ‘sticky’ from this. For me it stopped without a while, then once the collarbone is OK it’s a specimen of towers things when up.Unstipulatedmovement really helps, no need for weights until you are properly mended – without six/seven weeks I was told to just do what felt well-appointed which for me was light weight and concentrating on the full range of movement. Hopefully your doc will guide you. Hope that helps and good luck with the mend. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on June 8, 2017 at 11:34 am Jill says: Hi Matt, I’m 11 days in and am finding that the pain is ramping up again. I stopped using my sling 4 days ago, so I hope that’s not the reason why. Thanks for your post as it makes me think perhaps it’s just part of the healing process. Jill Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on September 12, 2018 at 1:24 pm Scott says: Reading this 9 weeks into a slow recovery. Thanks for the insights. My collarbone is in three shit and I moreover have three ribs busted.Without5 weeks x-ray showed no sign of new bone. Depressing as hell that was. Next x-ray is 5 weeks yonder and I hope the skin and muscle tension and lump I’m begining to finger is a good sign. It’s dropped well-nigh 2 cm and my arm feels odd versus my torso. It’s gonna be a long summer…. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on June 29, 2017 at 5:23 pm Candy Kemp says: Lots of posts here. I tapped my collarbone three variegated time, in 1976 at 3 years old (I’m told since I don’t remember), in 1989 at 16 yearso old, fell off a jungle gym when flipside kid tickled me while I was hanging upside down, and in 1997 at 24 riding a bicycle downhill. I know initially the accidents hurt but it didn’t hurt without a few minutes until reaching the ER and the Dr pushed the wreck when into place. I unquestionably think the breaks were tropical to one flipside as I only have one lump now and I remember the site from he’ll from the braces Too! Now 20 years later I still occasionally wake up with pain there, expressly right virtually the time it rains or the weather change, got to love it when the seasons change! People who’ve never wrenched a unorthodoxy just don’t get how painful it can get at these times. My doctor says to lose weight, I’m 50 pounds overweight and this will “fix” it, problem is 10 years ago surpassing I started gaining weight and expressly this last year since I’ve quit smoking and gained 30 lbs, the pain was still there. Told him this he said probably arthritis. But I read a post well-nigh how many muscles there are in the zone and as a nursing student I know this as well, it seems increasingly likely that the muscles tying to the unorthodoxy might be causing the unorthodoxy to hurt? Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on July 24, 2017 at 7:41 am Candy Kemp says: Not to say the doctor’s wrong in saying I need to lose weight but easier said than done. It is very hard, something I realize now without 30 years of stuff skinny. A lot easy to never get fat than to go from fat to skinny again! I’m just relieved I nevery needed surgery on my collarbone. I’ve heard it can rationalization permanent numbness or chronic pain or a combination of both. I’ll take intermittent pain onice in a while, never increasingly than 1-3x a month over unvarying pain! Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on July 24, 2017 at 7:56 am Candy Kemp says: Stupid auto-correct, sorry for all the typos Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on July 24, 2017 at 7:58 am Alyson Doyle says: Hi Matt & everyone on this page. I fell downstairs last Tuesday, rushing to aqua aerobics and tapped my left collar bone. I’ve never wrenched a unorthodoxy surpassing or plane been an in-patient for anything and I’m 63! I was supposed to be going yo Florida in five weeks worth my weightier friends and their children/grandchildren to go the the Parks. I spent a day in A&E ‘cos they thought I had a wrenched neck, then saw the consultant in the fracture clinic next day. I was so shocked when he said well-nigh three months to heal and I couldn’t go on any rides I never asked anything else. He just asked the nurse to put a sling on and said he’d see me in four weeks, so I know nothing! I’m in lots of pain and find if I take my sling off and straighten my arm it feels largest but I don’t know if this ways it’ll heal incorrectly. When I put the sling on I moreover get pain lanugo the when of my arm and in my when unelevated my shoulder. When I printing the collar unorthodoxy with the unappetizing on my hand it crunches and I’m so frightened of it healing wrongly if I don’t alimony the sling on. I live vacated but have family nearby, but don’t want to trouble people. Your page has helped seeing what others have dealt with and I’d be grateful for any pointers due to my fears. Thank you Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on September 25, 2017 at 3:58 pm Matt says: Sorry to hear well-nigh your injury Alyson, it never ceases to surprise me the steady stream of people that come to this page with their own tales of pain and misfortune. As much as it is traumatising at this time, I’m unchangingly thankful that nothing worse happened and that people can heal from these things. Having spent a week in a sling, it’s possible that your muscles are stiffening up or in tension from having to hold yourself differently to normal. I’m not medically trained – so I’m not going to requite any translating – but in my wits that was what happened with me and gentle movement from time to time helped so long as the unorthodoxy was not causing pain. Gently does it. I’ve unquestionably wrenched my collarbone twice, the first time took longer to heal than the second for no obvious reason so each injury is different, but your doctor may have said it might take a while in part due to your having gained plenty of life wits (congratulations by the way on reaching 63 without breaking anything)! Good luck with the mend, there will be plenty of days of frustration but it does get better. I hope you get to Florida, but I would alimony yonder from the rollercoasters! Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on September 26, 2017 at 1:47 pm Alyson Doyle says: Thank you Matt. Up then at 4.30am! Wouldn’t be too bad if it was summer and daylight! As you say be thankful. I’ve been watching the Invictus Games and I alimony thinking stop moaning Alyson, this is nothing compared to what some people have to cope with. Keeping the sling off when I can as the pain’s much worse with it on. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on September 27, 2017 at 4:29 am Heather says: Well I did my left one for the third time(in eight years) 10 days ago.First time was skiing and involved the middle third.Two years later otb mtb and a comminuted(several bits) fracture of the distal(outside third) and this time otb without mistiming a big drop(didnt push the velocipede far unbearable out,over rotated and came lanugo nose heavy and heavy otb).This was on a d/h velocipede and I was wearing a neck twosome which is probably what tapped my clavicle but may have saved me from something much worse.I see my specialist tomorrow and will see what he has to say as to whether we treat conservatively or go with surgery.Both prior times I had inobtrusive treatment and gained full use when and I’m kind of hoping we go the same way if thats the weightier route. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on September 26, 2017 at 6:51 am Alyson Doyle says: 😢😢 – Good luck Heather Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on September 26, 2017 at 12:25 pm Mary says: Hi, all: Thanks everyone for commiserating and encouraging! I’m getting surgery (contoured plate + screws) tomorrow on a significantly displaced unravel on the near-shoulder side. There’s moreover a non-displaced unravel somewhere else. I’m uninsured so I’m getting surgery scrutinizingly 20 days without the unravel but I’ve read that shouldn’t stupefy outcome much if at all. FYI for people struggling with financing surgery, I’m in NYC which theoretically has a strong “city hospital” system so I’m only stuff charged 2K for the surgery and anesthetic, and they let me put half of it on a payment plan. I’m a contract employee and just started my job three days without my injury (excrutiating vastitude words; lots of sneaking off to cry in the bathroom; was not given painkillers until day 7 considering UrgentSuperintendencysucked). I finger less vacated hearing from others, expressly the peepers that accompanies this very frustrating injury. I’ll report when if anyone wants to know increasingly well-nigh the plate+screw surgery. Good luck and take care! Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on October 4, 2017 at 4:30 pm Alyson Doyle says: Good luck Mary. Sending love and gentle hugs x Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on October 5, 2017 at 2:38 am David Tomlinson says: Seems like a very honest set of thoughts. Of undertow age may effect things (my wrecking coincided with my 67th birthday so haven’t got the luxury to leave recovery too long). Then again, the wrecking was as a result of a woebegone out of rationalization as yet unknown. And what else untied from wanderlust can’t you do? For me: swimming (can’t imagine wearing a sling whilst trying do do a few lanes); sailing (no way will I be wanting to lean over hanging on to the sail); flying (probably get grounded without a woebegone out); driving? (Don’t plane go there). So what to do? Well it was my left collarbone so at least I can lift a pint! Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on October 19, 2017 at 1:23 pm Matt says: Thanks David! Good luck with your recovery, but enjoy the drinks withal the way… Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on October 19, 2017 at 2:21 pm Alyson Doyle says: Injury update: Just got when from the hospital four weeks without fall.WithoutX-Ray told the unravel is fluffy/ sticky! In medical terms it’s starting to heal with calluses. It’s not fully mended and may take flipside 8-10 weeks to do so! Got to alimony the sling on and ensure no pressure on collarbone.Theoreticallyplane zoetic moves it, but they well-considered me not to stop that 😂😂 Seeing me in flipside four weeks – fed up ☹️ No gym, Nordic walking, aqua aerobics or driving 😢 In wing David Tomlinson he told me not to drink as swig impairs fracture repair!! Anyone else been told this? Have to shoehorn I do need my glass of red wine. It’s the only thing I can squint forward to 😢 Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on October 20, 2017 at 8:52 am Matt says: I can sense your frustration Alison! On the upside, healing is healing plane if it’s slow. I’ve found once the wreck have bridged wideness it starts to modernize despite stuff fragile. I think I have heard the no swig thing, but have never completely abstained myself – life’s too short, but it makes sense not to overload the system.Weightierwishes, Matt Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on October 20, 2017 at 2:39 pm Alyson Doyle says: Thanks Matt. Definitely having my glass of red wine with dinner… just not partying! Feeling much largest pain wise although I still have random periods of severe pain. It’s the lack of exercise I miss as I did it 6 days a week. Currently walking as much as I can, but miss the gym etc. Having read all the posts I finger quite fortunate. It is good to be worldly-wise to yack to each other though. Love Alyson. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on October 21, 2017 at 4:03 pm Jenny Leech says:Tappedmy right collar unorthodoxy in Italy in January this year, when flipside skier stopped in front of me, and I went lanugo on my shoulder. The pain was unbelievable, but I was quickly taken to the local doctor who did x rays and said it didn’t need surgery. I was fitted with a icon of eight twosome and told to alimony it on for 4 weeks (day and night). My husband was told to tighten it up each day but this proved untellable due to chaffing in the armpits.Whenhome, the Dr. at the fracture clinic made me take it off and put my arm in a sling. This was unbearably painful and gave no support at all to the shoulder. I put the icon of eight when on and kept it on, but I think the unorthodoxy had moved out of line considering I now have a huge lump. I got physio without 4 weeks and got movement when in the shoulder, but the phisio said it would be 12 months surpassing it fully healed. Now 9 months later, the shoulder still aches plane lying in bed, and I’m wondering if I should ask the GP to send me for flipside x ray. I am 67 so I suppose your soul takes longer to recover. Anyone had a similar experience? Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on October 23, 2017 at 9:10 pm Bob Graham says:Whenceweek 8 of recuperation. OTB at slow speed, tapped left collar bone, severe bruising of ribs, wafer in left side of throne (no helmet).X-ratedsling without 3 weeks and got too would-be so beware of frustration resulting in bad decisions. 12 weeks is the wool minimum surpassing any heavy lifting. I’m relieved to read that many of you are suffering from depression, in so much as it ways it’s not just me. I’m making slow progress , possibly due to my age (75) and therefore poorer healing. I have found that Hydrotherapy(under supervision) is really beneficial, i.e., exercising without weight bearing. My main sport is kitesurfing and I am missing some seriously good days, but it is going to be several months surpassing I will be venturing out on the water.Unconfinedblog by the way, be patient folks we will get there!! Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on November 9, 2017 at 11:01 pm Lucia says: In a car wrecking a few days surpassing thanksgiving 2017, I tapped my left clavicle. I am in my late forties and surpassing the wrecking I was fairly active.Withoutthe accident, I had the horrible pain with movement and you could see the clavicle wreck moving when I talked. I had sleepless nights, constipation, etc. I saw an orthopedic doctor well-nigh two weeks without the accident, but I did not like his recommendation. By the time I went for a second medical opinion, well-nigh week 3 without breaking my left clavicle, my left shoulder was visibly shorter than my right and slightly droopy plus I had two bumps. My wrenched collarbone X-ray looked a lot like the one pictured in the first comment. The 2nd doctor recommended surgery, but I had a unprepossessed that turned into bronchitis so surgery had to be elapsed by flipside week. The coughing with a wrenched collarbone was super painful. I had surgery six days short of a month without my injury. Surgery went well. I had a pain woodcut that lasted well-nigh 24 hours without surgery so I could not finger my arm, and that was for the best. The pain killers and icing the zone helped a lot. Ate lots of prunes and coffee to manage constipation from the pain meds. I wore my sling for the first three weeks without surgery. Had help to waterlog and to get dressed for the first 2 weeks. By 4 days without surgery I was off the strong meds and using Tylenol. Started doctor recommended minor exercises the day without surgery. My scar looks increasingly like a scratch than a scar. I get largest every day meaning increasingly mobility and increasingly feeling. I am still sleeping in a recliner. I am just 2 days shy of 4 weeks post surgery. I have been doing all the physiotherapy recommended and I ice every day. I have not been cleared to drive, but I am hopeful may be in two weeks. The posts were very helpful to me so I hope my post will help others too. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on January 4, 2018 at 4:25 am David says: 1st post scrutinizingly 3weeks in. I just want to leave these post to help anyone decide on what whoopee to take and requite as much info as possible so you can make an informed visualization on what treatment to take. It’s just flipside wrenched collar unorthodoxy to anyone else but to us it could be life changing. I don’t normally scuttlebutt or post on blogs but I’ve found this site and everyone’s post really helpful so I’d like to share my story. I tapped my left clavicle on 06/01/18 playing sat league football. I got myself straight to A&E, had the X-Ray to be told by the nurse that it was quite a nasty overlapping unravel but I’d have to return on Monday considering the fracture clinic was sealed over the weekend. Off I went with a box of codine & a visit to see an orthopaedic doctor on Monday @ 3pm. I’m a self employed left handed plasterer with a 12week old wondrous trappy daughter who’s just woke & is smiling at me as I write this which thankfully make it a lot easier. Anyway over the weekend I gradually got increasingly yellow-eyed well-nigh the whole situation, having my wife on maternity, a first year workmen at work, the usual mortgage, bills etc & the fact that I love everything outdoors & active, the realisation of what could be hit home. Luckily I got my workmen & work sorted with my old apprentice’s for the next 2months so I just needed to get this unorthodoxy stock-still ASAP. So I rolled up to A&E at 7:30am on Monday morning willing to wait for a receipt or anything which would indulge me to see the consultant older to be told that the fracture clinic doesn’t unshut until 2pm. Seeing that I was so keen the receptionist moved my visit forward to 2. Off home I went to return for my 2pm appointment. Giving my consultant all the information on my personal situation and the fact that the fracture was overlapping over 20mm he recommended surgery considering of the risk of a none union and if it did heal the risk of it stuff shorter & causing long term problems. He squeezed me on a ward stating that if my bum was in a bed I’d be operated on quicker. He booked me in for theatre the next day. The pursuit day my OP was rightfully cancelled due to emergencies taking priority. Weds morning the shoulder specialist surgeon for that day came to see me and said I didn’t need the operation, I tried to explain all personal situations but he just didn’t seem to want to listen or take the time to understand, I asked him if he’d looked at my X-ray? “From that angle” it looks like it should be ok he said and his translating was to go home & return in 3weeks as he walked yonder asking his ward doctor to typesetting me in for then. From that wile wasn’t good unbearable for me so I asked for remoter x-rays hoping for a quick consultation without his day in theatre or in the next few days but the doctor insisted on a 3week appointment. Whilst waiting for the x-ray I rang a local private hospital for a consultation & a 3rd opinion with a shoulder specialist only to be told it was the same surgeon that had just refused to work on me, so I made an visit with flipside orthopaedic consultant for the Friday. I hadn’t seen any of the X-rays so far but I’d bought the on cd for £10 so I could save the private consultant time.Withoutthe x-ray I returned to my ward and asked if I could go, I was told to wait 5mins so they could send a doctor to venting me. 2mins later my original consultant came & told me he couldn’t understand why his colleague didn’t operate, he said they had both gone over my x-rays on Monday & well-set the weightier route was theatre. He was really sorry & said he would do it personally tomorrow. I well-set only considering of the reading I’d washed-up over the past few days on the topic. I did point out that his colleague was the shoulder specialist & he a knee specialist but he seemed to have my weightier interest at heart and his colleague in my opinion did not which seems crazy considering his profession. That night I asked my wife to bring a palmtop with her during visiting we could squint at the x-rays, I’m no expert but the unorthodoxy was seriously overlapping and considering my profession, age (38) & zippy lifestyle I was confident I was doing the right thing, I’ve considered the risk & understand the possibility of needing a future op to remove the plate and or pins. The pursuit day 5days without the wrecking I was out of surgery but needed a night in hospital to recover due to feeing rough & vomiting on one occasion due to the anesthetic. The pain surpassing the surgery was really bad at times but I didn’t want to take morphine considering of the way it made me finger but the codine, paracetamol & ibuprofens did the job ok most of the time.Withoutsurgery the feeling was unconfined straight yonder I could tell the unorthodoxy was in place straight away, they had put a plate in there.Surpassingsurgery with unrepealable movements I could finger the unorthodoxy klinking together and moving in the tissue which was a very weird sensation. So far the clavicle zone has been fine, a weird numb feeling virtually the dressing & the odd moment of hyper sensitivity but nothing major. I’ve been asked to alimony the sling on for this 2weeks but I’ve been out of it during the days for a week and I was off the pain killers 5days post op. I’ve slept in the sling so not to forfeiture anything whilst asleep. Although I’ve had the sling off I’ve kept the arm in my t-shirt and have kept my shoulder still, I have been moving my hand & arm from the elbow down. From well-nigh day 5 post op, day 10 post unravel my arm has been getting gradually increasingly painful, expressly during the evening, in fact last night was the worst to date, I think it’s the lack of movement, I have a unrewarding yearn which is sometimes in the tricep, the deltoid, the inner elbow & outside forearm. The very clavicle zone is fine compared to this. I didn’t realise how painful tight ligaments can be, I’m when on the pain killers thanks to it, which I did not want to do. Anyway I’ve got my 2week post op meeting with my consultant today to probably get my staples removed & a post op x-Ray. I’ll alimony the post updated. I’ve got my fingers crossed for a speedy recovery and a return to normal working, zippy life but I’m not going to rush the lifting/physical side of recovery. I think I might get myself some Ibuleve gel this afternoon to try and ease this arm ache. (Sling syndrome) an older post said. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on January 26, 2018 at 8:48 am David says: 2nd post 3 weeks in. Just had the staples removed 21 in total. Was fine didn’t finger any pain at all. I was told I could leave the sling off permanently now unless I was doing something where it needed support or I felt like a rest. I was told to do light arm movements ie. limp over and hanging my arm lanugo and swinging it very slightly, Standing up straight & swinging it gently, lifting it in front of me slightly, stretching my neck off gently etc. I’ve just been hanging it and letting it stretch off, wow you can finger it right lanugo the arm & it’s as tight/stiff as and it takes a bit of deep zoetic to requite it a good stretch. That’s where all the pain as been coming from this week. I’m going to do a bit of research & do as much of this as I can to loosen it off. I’ve been told I can momentum in 4weeks taking it up to 6weeks post op/7weeks since the accident. I have flipside visit in 6weeks. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on January 26, 2018 at 1:45 pm David says: Here’s a useful link for anyone thinking or has had a ORIF (open reduction and internal fixation) or not. http://www.sportsorthopaedics.com.au/Shoulder/Entries/2012/11/11_Shoulder__Open_reduction_%26_internal_fixation_(ORIF)_of_clavicle_fracture.html Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on January 26, 2018 at 2:13 pm June says: Thank you for taking the time to write your article,fell on the last day of my ski holiday ,chipped end of collar unorthodoxy and fracture. I got up without the fall and next day made my way home as a passenger driving to uk from austria, thinking just lame ,went to walk in centre on return and had an x Ray. I am in a fig 8 sling and on day 5 pensile fracture clinic appointment.Unchanginglyskied since 14 weather-beaten 60 but I have decided to hang up the boots⛷.not told the family yet. I am a bit tearful at times just fed up and frustrated as normally very zippy and your so right well-nigh the armpits, you don’t realise how nonflexible it is to get out a suffuse with one arm, won’t try that again. I am moving my wrist and elbow up and lanugo as not had any translating yet just to alimony in sling when walking about. Just pleased to hear other people’s comments and encouragement..thank you Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on February 21, 2018 at 9:15 am David says: 2nd post 9 weeks post break. 8weeks since having the plate put in, feels great. I’ve been when on the tools at work for 3 weeks, I was told it was going to be 12weeks but I managed to get when in 6. I’m not lifting anything to heavy with my left arm or skimming large ceilings but I’m when at it earning & feeling good. I was at the gym 3 weeks without the op on the velocipede & arm stretches etc. The frozen shoulder was a nightmare for 2-3weeks aft the operation but the worst thing was not knowing how long is was going to last or what it was. I just kept doing arm raises & stretches for the 3weeks. I had a consultation & X-ray a week ago and it healing at the marrow but still looks tapped else where. Fingers crossed for the next X-ray in 4 weeks. So far I’m glad I had the surgery. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on March 10, 2018 at 9:57 pm caryn says: so happy i found this blog! such a relief to read well-nigh others’ experiences and what i’m thinking/feeling. i’m 10 days out of taking a header over the handlebars of my bike. non-displaced fracture of right mid-third collarbone. i’m 60 years old. very right-handed. didn’t plane know i had a left hand until now! WAS very active: 90 minutes rowing (sculling) 5 days per week, 90 minutes tennis 5 days per week, 1-2 hours hiking with dogs every day. it all came to a crashing halt with my crash. i’m so lucky to be in one piece other than the break, but so depressed with the lack of activity. i’m in a sling, 24/7 but remove it to stretch out my arm straight a couple of times a day and to shower. the site from hell definitely requires attention:) got off hydrocodone without one day, as OTC painkillers worked okay. sleepless, crabby and in a fog kind of for the first week. feeling increasingly discomfort into this second week, as an older post noted and i agree, i symbol to lack of use. doing a lot of squats when needing to bend, and holding right shoulder with left hand in front to minimize movement. wish i could take a short walk round the woodcut but walking too much jars the unorthodoxy so i get that queasy feeling. i haven’t read this in others’ posts, but i have adjusted my diet. i don’t want to pack on the pounds so i’m sticking to greens and lean protein -turkey, some chicken; no bread, no sugar. no surgery recommended for now, with next xray appt. in 2 weeks to trammels if healing. i am having a nonflexible time staying positive in light of the length of time for recovery. your blog is the only reading that has helped since this happened. thanks to everyone who posted & weightier for quick recovery to anyone dealing with this injury. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on April 16, 2018 at 3:04 pm Kevin Elias says:Washed-upmy collar unorthodoxy 2wks with an otb , glad well-nigh your review . Work in the towers game and never had time off but just tried to supervise . Driving is villainous , expressly indicating . As I said it’s been 13 days to the day , was going to return to hospital as it’s got worse over past two days . Really struggling to lift arm unassisted and pain excruciating. And I get the point moreover well-nigh feeling quite down. I’m 50 and going to Ibiza in wks time , love snorkelling so this could be a problem Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on July 8, 2018 at 12:23 pm Paul says: You’re blog is on the button. MTB crash 6weeks ago left me with 8 rib fractures, tabular lung and wrenched collar bone. Had surgery on collar unorthodoxy 10 days ago to fix a plate. Totally bummed, tired, frustrated and bored! On the upside I should be good to go for the summer. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on July 30, 2018 at 10:22 am Dawn Boden says: I cannot thank you enough! I tapped my collar unorthodoxy three weeks ago! I am 58 and it’s the worst pain ever! The arm pit scuttlebutt is right on!!! I am feeling depressed and I thought it was considering I was at Gardner and I can’t get out to my trappy flower beds. I was going to physical therapy prior to my injury considering I had a frozen shoulder so I had once learned how to do some stretches I’m going to try to do as much as I can to let my unorthodoxy heal and not be too nonflexible on myself but I have been looking for an vendible like this one Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on August 15, 2018 at 10:34 pm Jill says: Thanks for sharing; it’s a relief to know that I am not vacated in this and someone understands. I had a road velocipede wrecking 10 days ago, resulting in moderate-severe concussion, wrenched collarbone, ribs, sprained wrist etc. I am trying not to be too pessimistic regarding recovery, but it certainly feels like I have a long road superiority of me and my soul is once losing fitness and the lack of mental/physical stimulus has me bored out of my mind! So true well-nigh the site of doom… lol Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on September 12, 2018 at 1:04 pm Carrie says: I tapped my collarbone 4 weeks ago due to velocipede wreck. It was tapped in half with several unorthodoxy fragment floating virtually so I had to have it plated 3 weeks ago. It was unquestionably wrenched in 4 places.Surpassingsurgery I exercised every day on stationary velocipede and plane aqua jogged in sling one day.Withoutsurgery I started going when to the gym without 2 days to ride in the stationary velocipede for 1-2 hrs. 6 days without surgery my Ortho Doc let me start when easy running but I have to run easy and try not to vellicate very much. I was out of the sling without 2 weeks and am using my arm for everyday activities but I’m not unliable to lift my arm whilom my throne or lift over 2 pounds. I’m post op 3 weeks now and swam 500 yards today using only one arm and a pool buoy. I have ran 20 miles so far this week and cycled 70, mostly all indoors. I think getting up and stuff zippy is good for you and I’m thankful my Dr allows me to be active. I had first post op X-ray without 2 weeks, everything was in place but there was no unorthodoxy union yet which is normal. I go when for 2nd follow up X-ray in 3 weeks which is post op 6 weeks, hoping it’s heaking well. I have very little pain, good rom and was off pain meds in just a few days. I don’t finger like I’ve lost any fitness, in fact I’ve been putting in 7-10 hrs a week. Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on September 14, 2018 at 2:53 am Gillian D says: It’s been 16 days since I tapped mine, sick of my life but glad to be working if that makes sense?Unconfinedarticle, very accurate, sneezing and hiccups traumatization 🤕 Add a new comment, or reply to this scuttlebutt Posted on September 17, 2018 at 12:20 am Leave a comment… Cancel reply Have your say – we'd love to hear what you think.If you have something to add, just well-constructed this scuttlebutt form (we will not publish your email address).*Required information.CommentName * Email * Website This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your scuttlebutt data is processed. Search for:Go! 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